ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (06/06/90)
Date: 06-04-90 (11:43) Number: 3313 (Echo) To: JERRY SHIFRIN Refer#: 3253 From: GENE LEFAVE Read: NO Subj: LICENSING PROGRAMMERS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE JS>skills. I see a lack of concern with quality. New grads seem JS>mainly concerned with seeing how quickly they can get out of JS>programming and into management. JS>Sorry if I sound negative, but I haven't seem much lately to JS>inspire confidence in programming as a profession. . I agree with you. I have trouble with the concept programmer as professional. Namely because they are, with rare exceptions, at the mercy of management. I have been told to either "ship it" or "get out" even when I didn't feel that something was complete or adequate for the job. The term professional has a connotation that the individual is responsible for quality. I find that in most instances management has the control. In my experience most managers find programmers and enginneers in general about as important as a second left foot. . I've slowly come around to a position of supporting some type of licensing if only to get some leverage with management. --- ~ EZ-Reader 1.13 ~ ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu
ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (06/16/90)
Date: 06-12-90 (11:00) Number: 3344 (Echo) To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: JACK WOEHR Read: (N/A) Subj: CANCEL THE MEETING, LIZ! Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE From page 25 of the "Computer Solutions Catalog #5", a catalog of PD Software disks: "LA508: ... FIGFORTH - The complete FIG-FORTH Language that is an '83 ANSI standard implementation." :-) jax (-: NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth! ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu
ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (06/16/90)
Date: 06-13-90 (12:10) Number: 3355 (Echo) To: JACK WOEHR Refer#: 3344 From: RAY DUNCAN Read: NO Subj: CANCEL THE MEETING, LIZ! Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Wow, a Forth for everyone: FIG-FORTH ANSI-STANDARD FORTH-83!! NET/Mail : LMI Forth Board, Los Angeles, CA (213) 306-3530 ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu