JAJZ801@CALSTATE.BITNET ("Jeff Sicherman,CSU Long Beach") (07/23/90)
Is there any particular reason, other than time and expense, why no one with cheap (local) access to the various FORTH BBS's hasn't uploaded many of the files there to SIMTEL ?? Jeff Sicherman jajz801@calstate.bitnet
dwp@ladon.resdoc.cs.cmu.edu (Doug Philips) (07/23/90)
> Is there any particular reason, other than time and expense, >why no one with cheap (local) access to the various FORTH BBS's >hasn't uploaded many of the files there to SIMTEL ?? > >Jeff Sicherman >jajz801@calstate.bitnet Several reasons: The SIMTEL archive maintainer for DOS and whatnot, Keith Petersen, lost his job because of a loss of funding. SIMTEL is also extremely tight on space (funding again), so only binaries and some sources were even being accepted (before Keith left). SIMTEL only accepts some kinds of materials. I had tried to get BBL/Abundance accepted on SIMTEL, but KP felt it wasn't really shareware but cripple-ware. (I didn't have the time/energy to "fight" about it.) OLIS (Thomas Rolf's server) is available to hold and distribute text related to Forth (He has no room for binaries/ source). I currently make some of the GEnie files referenced in articles ported to comp.lang.forth from ForthNet available by email. I have contacted UUNET about setting up an archive, but they will only support PD software available in source form (not binary, not random related text, not shareware). If anyone knows of any site on the net which has the space (30-50 Meg) and political climate to hold the current slew of stuff available (GEnie, xCFB's) please let me or Gary Smith (ForthNet's papa) know. (FIG's GEnie library regularly exchanges files with the xCFB's so that they are usually not more than a few months of differences between them). I am willing to put in the time and effort to manage the archive and coordinate uploads and downloads with the rest of ForthNet. This means that a potential site doesn't have to donate scarce human resources, only scare disk/net resources. Please RSVP to 'willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu' or 'uunet!willett!dwp'. I don't usually post from here, but I wanted to get an especially timely answer out. -Doug (In a pinch: dwp+@cs.cmu.edu)
muts@fysaj.fys.ruu.nl (Peter Mutsaers /100000) (07/23/90)
JAJZ801@CALSTATE.BITNET ("Jeff Sicherman,CSU Long Beach") writes: > Is there any particular reason, other than time and expense, >why no one with cheap (local) access to the various FORTH BBS's >hasn't uploaded many of the files there to SIMTEL ?? Yes I'd like to see some of these Forth files available on the internet too. As it is now, I don't have any way of obtaining files from Forth archives, I odn't even know if they exist. -- Peter Mutsaers email: muts@fysaj.fys.ruu.nl Rijksuniversiteit Utrecht nmutsaer@ruunsa.fys.ruu.nl Princetonplein 5 tel: (+31)-(0)30-534504 3584 CG Utrecht, Netherlands
zmola@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Carl Zmola) (07/25/90)
In article <1327@ruunsa.fys.ruu.nl> muts@fysaj.fys.ruu.nl (Peter Mutsaers /100000) writes: >JAJZ801@CALSTATE.BITNET ("Jeff Sicherman,CSU Long Beach") writes: >> Is there any particular reason, other than time and expense, >>why no one with cheap (local) access to the various FORTH BBS's >>hasn't uploaded many of the files there to SIMTEL ?? > >Yes I'd like to see some of these Forth files available on the >internet too. As it is now, I don't have any way of obtaining >files from Forth archives, I don't even know if they exist. > Some forth is available on the Net from the archives at Wash. U. St. Louis I ftp'd F-PC, and F83 v2 for dos from there, they also have a 386 assembler for F-PC. the archive is at wuarchive.wustl.edu and is available for anonymous ftp. the pc forths are in directory systems/msdos/forth I believe. Happy FTPing CARL