dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us (Doug Philips) (08/30/90)
I found the following message on alt.lang.cfutures. I'm posting here for those that don't get alt.* or don't read this kind of thread. Is there a response to these people? Is Forth a good/realistic/etc solution? (For those on the otherside of ForthNet from UseNet, I'll cross post any replies you make.) How many Forths are there for Crays? -Doug ---Begin Forwarded Message/s--- From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) Subject: Re: structured numerical specialist language? Lines: 29 In article <20059@well.sf.ca.us> rchrd@well.sf.ca.us (Richard Friedman) writes: >wvenable@spam.ua.oz.au (Bill Venables) writes: >>It seems to me this would be a much more sensible way to go - to design a >>companion language to C specifically for numerical purposes, very much in >>line with the Unix philosophy of having a collection of small tools that >>fit together rather than a committee-designed camel (like Ada?). > >What about APL %-) ? (Rhetorical) When did this group start?... Two issues: Richard's APL and Bill's new C. I thought APL was tried as the language for the STAR-100. I am informed that issues such as the evaluation order were something of an issue. We aren't consistent in the way we do this in different languages. I tried bringing up Tim Budd's APL system on both the Convex and Cray. Small yacc and lex support problems. I might try it again in the future. I think one of the reasons why numeric languages have the "feel" they do is that they largely developed on batch/compiled systems. Now that the "supers" (sic) have interactive systems on some of them, I expect more intepretative languages and newer but less efficient ways of programming them to develop, first. Ada has not made great in roads on Crays (but does exist). The open question is what would such a tool oriented language look like? I've a few ideas from a physicist friend working with yacc and lex at UCSC. I hope his ideas (with some help from me) pan out. --e. nobuo miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene ---End Forwarded Message/s--- --- Preferred: ( dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us OR ...!{sei,pitt}!willett!dwp ) Daily: ...!{uunet,nfsun}!willett!dwp [last resort: dwp@vega.fac.cs.cmu.edu]
peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) (08/31/90)
In article <1643.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us> dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us (Doug Philips) writes: > I found the following message on alt.lang.cfutures. I'm posting > here for those that don't get alt.* or don't read this kind of thread. Geeze. I *created* the group and I still haven't seen a single message in there I didn't post myself. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' +1 713 274 5180. 'U` peter@ferranti.com