ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (05/28/90)
Date: 05-26-90 (17:09) Number: 3278 (Echo)
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: JOSE BETANCOURT Read: (N/A)
Subj: COMMERCIAL Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Mi-Shell may be another commercial application written in Forth.
Thats what I infer, since its built-in script language is Forth-like.
The preview came out in the May 1990 BYTE, page 64.
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Date: 07-22-90 (12:29) Number: 444 (Echo) To: MATTHIAS GIWER Refer#: 439 From: DAVID BREEDING Read: NO Subj: FORTH COMPUTER Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE According to my best information, there are only a couple of true self-contained forth computers on the market. Silicon Composers makes one that is based on the RTX2000 and another based on the SC32. Both are excellent products, but are expensive. Another product is the TDS9090. This product is programed on an IBM-PC and then serperated to and independent system. It is MUCH slower, and MUCH cheaper. There are other "specialty" products, that are more expensive but offer more performance. Let me know what your requirements are, maybe we can come up with something. ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu
ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (07/25/90)
Date: 07-23-90 (14:43) Number: 446 (Echo) To: DAVID BREEDING Refer#: 444 From: MATTHIAS GIWER Read: NO Subj: FORTH COMPUTER Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Um,no. I was just looking for information on a computer that used Forth as the ML. Thats all. And,if I was thinking of buying one, I would want one that was more suitable for home-PC use. That's all. Just looking for information. ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu
ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (07/27/90)
Date: 07-25-90 (14:54) Number: 447 (Echo)
To: MATTHIAS GIWER Refer#: 446
From: DAVID BREEDING Read: 07-25-90 (20:01)
Subj: FORTH COMPUTER Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Ok...only the "forth engine" machines use Forth as the ML. That means
either the RTX2000 or SC32. Contact Silicon Composers Inc. at:
208 California Ave
Palo Alto, Ca. 94306 (415) 322-8763
If you're looking for a "home system" it may be better to look for a
Forth that compiles to ML...and there are plenty of them on the market.
The Forth computers are one thing...FAST!!! Like getting a
super-computer on your desk.
Date: 07-25-90 (20:01) Number: 448 (Echo)
To: DAVID BREEDING Refer#: 447
From: MATTHIAS GIWER Read: NO
Subj: FORTH COMPUTER Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
The Forth-as-ML is what I am interested in. The "super-computer on a
desk" is exatly what I am looking into. I might call them to find out
how much they cost.
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Date: 07-25-90 (10:12) Number: 449 (Echo) To: DAVID BREEDING Refer#: 444 From: RAY DUNCAN Read: NO Subj: FORTH COMPUTER Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE A company called Mikrap in Switzerland makes a small self-contained computer based on the RTX-2000. It is about the size of a business card. If you are interested you should contact Klaus Flesch in West Germany at (49) 7667-551. NET/Mail : LMI Forth Board, Los Angeles, CA (213) 306-3530 ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu
ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (08/01/90)
Date: 07-29-90 (10:28) Number: 455 (Echo)
To: DAVID BREEDING Refer#: 454
From: RAY DUNCAN Read: NO
Subj: SWISS COMPUTER... Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
>Do you have a UUNET or US Mail address for them [Mikrap]
No, but here is some direct contact information:
Mr. Bruno Traber
Mikrap AG
Langruetistrasse 33
CH-8840 Einsiedeln
Switzerland
phone: (055) 53 65 55
FAX: (055) 53 61 23
By the way, they will be exhibiting their products at the Embedded
Systems Conference in September.
NET/Mail : LMI Forth Board, Los Angeles, CA (213) 306-3530
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Category 4, Topic 9
Message 24 Sun Oct 28, 1990
GARY-S at 06:36 EST
In the October 17, 1990 guest conference on GEnie's Forth RoundTable,
Jef raskin mentioned there were still _some_ Canon Cats available through
David Wing. I contacted Mr. Wing who advises he still has the following
units available:
1) A Project 7 protoype, with firmware developed for the 1989 design for the
unmarketed portable. This is an early production Cat case, and has the
programmer's switch to give instant access to the Forth interpreter. Instead
of USE FRONT this and that, it uses function keys at the top of the keyboard
for each command. It has 384K of RAM and is in daily use as a backup system
in Mr. Wing's office. The screen display is adjusted to match the aspect
ratio of the proposed LCD screen. The firmware shows an occassional bug, but
the machine is quite useful for any serious hacker who saves work fre-
quently. The P7 firmware does not support the modem or the parallel port,
but it does share disk compatibility with the standard CAT, although the
LEARN commands on a Cat will be erased (as when you load a Cat v1.66 text
disk into the later v1.74 machines).
This machine is available with a Cat How-to Manual (generally explains
operation) and a spare main circuit board and keyboard for $400.00. (A
good technician can convert this to a standard Cat.) UPS shipping prepaid.
2) A working 1989 Swyft 9" prototype, which was made in quantity of 200 to
demonstrate the manufactuability of the Cat design. It has direct access to
FORTH also, uses a different disk format on its 3-1/2" drive, and sports a
lighter weight and neat carrying handle. It has no on-off switch per Jef's
original specifications, and shuts down to idle with its monitor actually
off after automatic save. One of these is available, to be sold with
another 80% complete unit for spare parts; $200.00 for the package. No
documentation is available for the Swyft, but David will help as much as
he is able.
3) A complete demo cat, in complete working order with documentation.
There is slight screen burn, but otherwise looks new. This unit has the
final draft, improved v1.74 firmware produced by Information Appliance,
Inc. and discussed during Steve Robert's Winnebiko conference on GEnie.
The price for this unit is $750.00.
4) A totally new, pristine Unit with the v1.74 software. The only time this
unit has been out of the box is during the test burn by Mr. Wing just before
he and I discussed these systems. This unit goes for $1250.00.
If anyone is interested in reading what a Cat can do should capture and
read Jef raskin's conference. He was using one throughout the conference,
was able to read and capture the questions while composing a response, and
could do computations and edits without having to exit the comm program .
These machines were created with user interface as there strong suit.
Standard disclaimers apply. I have no vested interest in the sales of
these last few remaining Canon Cats.
It is strictly 'first-come, first-served', so if you want one time is of
essence.
If anyone is interested in buying one of these, you may do so by sending
a check or money-order in the proper amount to the following:
David Wing
1538 Granada Ave.
San Diego, CA 92102
I can not give Mr. Wing's phone number, but can call Mr. Wing on your
behalf if there is a pressing reason to do so.
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Category 4, Topic 9 Message 25 Sun Oct 28, 1990 W.BADEN1 [Wil] at 17:32 PST In the interest of fairness in advertising, during the Jeff Raskin conference, I too "was able to read and capture the questions while composing a response and could do computations and edits without having to exit the comm program." So could anyone else with a window system. ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (12/01/90)
Category 4, Topic 9 Message 26 Fri Nov 30, 1990 GARY-S at 06:13 EST David Wing has sent me an update on the Canon Cats he still has in inventory. Dear Gary, I thought I would send you an update of the Canon cats. You may wish to post this if you think it would be of interest to FORTHers. I finally got the invoice on the machines I picked up, which reflected more favorable terms than I had originally negotiated. The used Cat in the original box with manuals, cables and version 1.74 ROMs is $550. The new Cats are $850. Since I have other machines I can use, the old prototypes are not as dear to me now, and I can offer a year-end clearance: original 9-inch Swyft, $50; Project 7 (portable firmware in a Cat body), $100. I am really running out of room, and cannot maintain an entire museum. You may post my telephone number if you think it will speed things up. Best regards, David Wing 1538 Granada Avenue San Diego, CA 92102 619-239-4874 ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (12/10/90)
Date: 12-07-90 (14:06) Number: 415 of 417 (Echo)
To: GARY SMITH Refer#: NONE
From: JACK WOEHR Read: NO
Subj: MISC Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
... the company that is!
(M)inimal Instruction Set Computers telephone number:
(303) 690-9020 speak to Charles Johnsen.
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NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth!
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