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Date: 12-17-89 (22:42) Number: 1468 (Echo) To: GARY-S Refer#: NONE From: SYSOP (ECFB/SHIFRIN) Read: NO Subj: DISTANT DRUMS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE GS> Do we have ANY mechanics in place to respond to SAM*JEDI other than GS> snail-mail lip service ? France's SAM*JEDI (Forth Association) is I'm not sure about its current status, but we did have a MetroLink connection to London. They took a major hardware hit a few weeks ago and we haven't seeen any sign of them since, I've been told they plan to be back in touch RSN/ADN. BTW, there's some discussion going on of a possible link to South Africa. Now that should make for some interesting fireworks <grin>. --- * QDeLuxe 1.10 #214s ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated program. Report problems to: 'uunet!willett!dwp' or 'willett!dwp@gateway.sei.cmu.edu'
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Category 14, Topic 8 Message 38 Wed Jan 10, 1990 GARY-S at 18:12 EST Marc Peterman of France's Association Jedi has decided to send me FAX's of code <sigh>. I now have three pages of some interesting printer function code. I also have no intention of re-keying this information. If anyone is interested in doing so and posting it to either the library or the BBS I will mail it to you. Otherwise, it will go to the bottomless file cabinet. e-mail me here on GEnie GARY-S ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: 'uunet!willett!dwp' or 'willett!dwp@gateway.sei.cmu.edu'
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Message 45 Sun May 06, 1990
GARY-S at 09:22 EDT
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From lll-winken!uunet!mcsun!nsi!barran Thu May 3 17:26:53 1990
To: well!gars
Subject: FORTH Conference at NEXUS
Organization: Nexus Servicios de Informacion S.L. Barcelona Spain
Date: 3 May 90 17:33:20 Spa (Thu)
From: uunet!nsi.es!barran
Dear Mr. Smith:
I am Juanma Barranquero. With Jesus Consuegra (another FIG member),
I'm the moderator of the FORTH conference in NEXUS. NEXUS is a spanish
teleconferencing system based on CoSy, the same software as BIX. At now we
have 734 users, and 29 are members of the FORTH conference. Moreover, we
have a listings area with some Public Domain and ShareWare implementations
of FORTH: F-PC, F83, PYGMY, ZEN, etc, and files from other sources, most
notably OLIS (the Thomas Rolf's On-Line FORTH Server). I'm writing to you
to make you aware of our existence.
My address:
Juan Manuel Barranquero Rios
P. O. Box 23145
08080 Barcelona
SPAIN
E-mail:
barran@nexus.nsi.es (preferred)
barran@nsi.es
barran (on BIX)
NEXUS' address:
NEXUS Servicios de Informacion, S. L.
Travesera de Dalt, 104-106, Entlo. 4-5
08024 Barcelona
SPAIN
(Voice) + 34 3 2103355
(Modem) + 34 3 2147262
Looking forward to hear from you soon
Juanma Barranquero
P.S.: I REALLY apologyze for my english :-)
Juanma -
Thanks for the e-mail regarding NEXUS. I will post the message you sent
to the ForthNet and forward it to the editor of 'Forth Dimensions'.
Please be patient regarding any listing or notice in the 'Forth Dim.'
Resources section. The lead time for publication is v-e-r-y long.
Good luck ! and please keep me informed of your activities.
Gary
ps - I thought your English was superb !!!!
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Date: 05-05-90 (11:10) Number: 3206
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: FIG MELBOURNE Read: HAS REPLIES
Subj: PEN PALS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
We have received the following letter from East Germany.
" Borgereude 20.4.1990
Hallo !
I'm member in the FIG of the German Democratic Republic. My english is
not so good, but I hope you can understand me. From the FIG in
California I had get your address.
I'm 18 years old, go in a matriculation class, live straight from
school, have a sister, us house is situated near the Baltic Sea perhaps
30 kilometer to Rostock.
Since 2 years I learning to work in FORTH, CP/M, MS-DOS, UNIX I think
it's necessary for me to change information about FORTH and so I hope
you can help me.
Perhaps you can send me a address from a boy or girl, who also interest,
or give me another address. We can also change information about
cultural and other things. What do you know? I don't no why not? I
would be most grateful if you would help me in this matter.
Yours Sincerely,
Bert Bolm
Seestrasse 25
Borgerende
2561
GDR "
Would anyone like to reply?
The only female Forth programmers our chapter can think of are Elizabeth
Rather and Terri Sutton. No one recalls seeing one in Australia. On
ages we have one member of 25 and then it's 30 and up.
Does this say something about the long term future of FORTH?
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NET/Mail : Australian Connection Forth Board (Melbourne) 61 3 8091787
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Date: 05-05-90 (13:43) Number: 3212 (Echo)
To: FIG MELBOURNE Refer#: 3206
From: SYSOP (ECFB/SHIFRIN) Read: NO
Subj: PEN PALS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
>Does this say something about the long term future of FORTH?
Well, at least it indicates that we're internationally connected.
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FIG Melbourne> We have received the following letter from East Germany.
[...]
Bert Bolm> I'm member in the FIG of the German Democratic Republic.
Bert Bolm> I'm 18 years old,
[...]
FIG M> Would anyone like to reply?
FIG M> The only female Forth programmers our chapter can think of are
FIG M> Elizabeth Rather and Terri Sutton. No one recalls seeing one in
FIG M> Australia. On ages we have one member of 25 and then it's 30 and up.
My daughter is 19 and male, but I'll contact Bert anyway (by snail mail).
--Hannes (Murnau, West Germany) | gamber@cosmo.uucp |
| fido 2:507/414.20 |
ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (06/30/90)
Date: 06-27-90 (16:42) Number: 3426 (Echo) To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: SERGEI BARANOFF Read: (N/A) Subj: HELLO FROM RUSSIA Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Hello to Forth colleagues from Russian Forthman Sergei Baranoff currently staying at BCIT with Jack Brown. Forth in the USSR is promoting intellectual development of our society. Any local Forthers are welcome to attend the BC FIG meeting on June 28 at 7.30 pm, British Columbia Institute of Technoogy, Room 1A-324. I will be leaving Vancouver on July 1 for Boston visiting Dick Miller at MMS. Sergei Baranoff NET/Mail : British Columbia Forth Board - Burnaby BC - (604)434-5886 ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu
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Category 14, Topic 8 Message 52 Fri Jun 29, 1990 D.RUFFER [Dennis] at 22:12 EDT Re: Sergei Baranoff Welcome to the ForthNet Sergei, we are very glad you had time to check us out while you were here. Now, is there any possibility of getting a ForthNet node started in Russia? Wouldn't that drive the politicians crazy on both sides of the border. :-) DaR ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu
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Message 53 Sat Jun 30, 1990
GARY-S at 07:16 EDT
In a welcome to Sergei Baranoff, Dennis Ruffer writes:
DR> Now, is there any possibility of getting a ForthNet node
DR> started in Russia? Wouldn't that drive the politicians crazy on both
DR> sides of the border. :-)
According to Jack Brown, just such a possibility DOES exist. Sergei
was able to communicate with a colleague while in California via a
sattellite link. Upon his return to Leningrad there will be a test to
determine if the link can be used on a continuing (if limited) basis.
Other items of interest regarding Sergei's visit:
I had hoped to arrange for a impromptu guest conference on GEnie.
There simply was not enough time.
However, Dick Miller has located two recent Russian emigre(s), and
IF Larry is able to invite Sergei again next year, we will try to set
up a conference with him and one of the emigre.
By the way, both of these recent arrivals are Forth proficient and
in need of employment.
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Date: 07-02-90 (11:27) Number: 3449 (Echo) To: DENNIS RUFFER Refer#: 3431 From: JACK BROWN Read: NO Subj: DISTANT DRUMS Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE >while you were here. Now, is there any possibility of getting a ForthN >started in Russia? Wouldn't that drive the politicians crazy on both s While Sergei was in San Francisco he met Bill Leland who knows how to send e-mail to Moscow using ECHO-net via a direct sattelite link. ECHO-net has gateways to BITNET so when Sergei arrives back home in Lenningrad we are going to try a 2-way communication. We know that it is possible because Bill Leland sent e-mail to one of Sergei's colleagues and they received a reply the next morning. NET/Mail : British Columbia Forth Board - Burnaby BC - (604)434-5886 ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu
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Date: 07-14-90 (10:14) Number: 3517 (Echo) To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: IAN WATTERS Read: (N/A) Subj: HELLO FROM THE UK Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Hello everyone, I asked Ed Cowling of the wonderful Islington BBS in London to take this conf and here we are -- hello from the UK! I've used Forth for about 7 years now. On the PC, I use Kelly's PC-Forth and F-83 2.1 & am trying to get into Tom Zimmer's F-PC (though since I banned Forth from my hard disk machine, that's proving difficult given the quantities of source!) and Zen Forth (version 1.7 -- was that the one in Dr Dobbs this January?) I find Forth to be more useful on my 8-bit machines, an Atari 800 and two CP/Ms. This is because Forth packs so much power into so little space. It's also excellent for controling strange hardware like the Atari's graphics and sound chips. But with all the memory available on the PC, environments like Turbo Pascal's are just so much more convenient and the code they produce is fast and compact. So Forth has been relegated to helping develop TSRs and learning how to control the PC's hardware which is sad. Are there any PC Forths that give Turbo a run for its money in speed and ease? --- ~ EZ 1.30 ~ Thanks, Ian ~ TomCat! 2.0 w # Via Node 1 Islington BBS +44 71 226 1248 PCRelay:IBBSNET -> #143 RelayNet (tm) 4.10a15 <Islington BBS> London UK +44 71 704 0760 NET/Mail : DC Information Exchange, MetroLink Int'l Hub. (202)433-6639 ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or willett!dwp@hobbes.cert.sei.cmu.edu
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Category 14, Topic 8
Message 56 Sun Aug 05, 1990
GARY-S at 13:59 EDT
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From jax Thu Aug 2 19:38:42 1990
From: jax (Jack J. Woehr)
Subject: Re: UUCP <--> FidoNet
To: lll-winken!uunet!mcsun!euskom.spritel.es!Marcos_de_la_Puerta_Borja
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 90 19:38:24 PDT
Cc: borja.marcos@f3.n344.z2.fidonet.ORG
>
> How are you?
Just fine, and you? How is FIG doing in Spain?
>
> I have found a gateway between UUCP and FidoNet.
> For example, to send a message to the user Borja Marcos at the node
> 2:344/3, you must use the address: borja.marcos@f3.n344.z2.fidonet.ORG
>
Great, I'll try to send a copy of this that way.
>
> This can be the solution to send the ForthNet messages to FidoNet.
> We would need to subscribe one BBS to FIGI-L, and the mail would be relayed
> to the others.
>
I'll forward this to gary smith, and see what his response is.
> P/S. What kind of CPU boards do you sell at Vesta? I am using actually a
> TDS9090 with a 63A03Y, but I like to be up to date about the embedded
control
> market.
>
We sell boards based on the 8088, 80188 and 68000 ... next comes
a board with the Intel 80196, in a few more months. Send me your mail
address for a catalog.
=jax=
To: lll-winken!uunet!mcsun!euskom.spritel.es!Marcos_de_la_Puerta_Borja
jax
Subject: Re: UUCP <--> FidoNet
Cc: borja.marcos@f3.n344.z2.fidonet.ORG
Juan -
This is GREAT news. I am extremely anxious to see your group in
the ForthNet loop. Please do not hesitate to let me know how things
are progressing. Is there something I can do from this end ?
Gary
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Message 58 Sun Aug 19, 1990
GARY-S at 06:37 EDT
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From: uunet!euskom.spritel.es!Marcos_de_la_Puerta_Borja
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 90 12:39 +0100
Subject: Re: Received note in FidoNet
To: well!gars
Dear Gary,
I actually receive comp.lang.forth through FIGI-L, so I do not need to
use FidoNet, but the other members of FIG do not have access to UUCP, BITNET,
etc. This is why I am exploring the possibilities of FidoNet, as accessing to
a BBS is very easy. There is at least one BBS at most cities in Spain, and I
try to see if the other members will have access to email, which, you know,
is really interesting.
This is a list of the spanish members with email:
Inigo Losada: los_ini_t@euskom.spritel.es
inigo.losada@f3.n344.z2.fidonet.ORG
Roberto Deza: RDA@CPD.UNAV.es
Jesus Consuegra: jesusc@nexus.nsi.es
Juanma Barranquero: barran@nexus.nsi.es
There is another member who has just bought a modem, and is trying to
login in some BBSs, but he is having some problems.
Regards,
Borja Marcos
To: uunet!euskom.spritel.es!Marcos_de_la_Puerta_Borja
Subject: Re: Received note in FidoNet
Dear Borja,
Thank you for the update. Since you have access to Usenet you already
know our exchanges are being made public on ForthNet and comp.lang.forth.
I think it important for your efforts in Spain to be recognized and
encouraged. It is also important for others to realize this opportunity
is because we have access to advanced communications.
I hope your good example will encourage others to make the effort to
realize global connectivity with other Forth users.
Your associates may be further encouraged to know we are in the process
of placing FNEAS (ForthNet Email Archive Server) on line to provide Forth
files for all systems. Eventually it will echo much of the file base now
available on GEnie, but not accessible to distant contacts like you.
Regards,
Gary Smith
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In <1559.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us>, GARY-S writes: > Your associates may be further encouraged to know we are in the process > of placing FNEAS (ForthNet Email Archive Server) on line to provide Forth > files for all systems. Eventually it will echo much of the file base now > available on GEnie, but not accessible to distant contacts like you. Actually, anyone who has email access to UseNet can theoretically have access to FNEAS. Overseas access should be possible. Realisticly it will depend on speed/cost of links, etc. -Doug --- Preferred: ( dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us OR ...!{sei,pitt}!willett!dwp ) Daily: ...!{uunet,nfsun}!willett!dwp [last resort: dwp@vega.fac.cs.cmu.edu]
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Message 59 Sun Aug 26, 1990
GARY-S at 08:37 EDT
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From: uunet!euskom.spritel.es!Marcos_de_la_Puerta_Borja
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 90 12:23 +0100
Subject: Re: Received note in FidoNet
To: RDA@CPD.UNAV.es, well!gars
I am now convincing Spanish members to buy a modem and join the email
world. I am also studying the possibility of setting up my own Eunet
(European
UUCP) node to ease the message traffic between BBSs and c.l.f. I will keep
you up to date about our progress.
Ah, Jax told me that Leo Brotzman is going to close FIGI-L. Do you
know anything about it? Do you know of any other path to continue receiving
c.l.f in case FIGI-L disappears? (Sorry, but Spanish lines are awful.)
I ha not direct access to Usenet, so I must receive the messages through
a Bitnet Listserver.
Regards,
Borja Marcos.
P.S. Ah, I have a proposal that might be interesting. Have you heard of
AX.25? There is an amateur network over radio, running this packet-switching
protocol and TCP/IP. Lis between countries can be established in Short
Wave (for example 15 MHz) and local links in VHF.
To: RDA@CPD.UNAV.es uunet!euskom.spritel.es!Marcos_de_la_Puerta_Borja
Subject:|4r)e: Received note in FidoNet
Dear Borja,
Lee Brotzman has not closed down his BITnet server - yet. He very
much would like to get out of the net server business, but Lee is a
class act and hopes to first locate a successor. If no volunteers
come forward and the requirements of his work and home life become
too great you can be sure the server will go down.
X.25 is the current most common form a packet switching in use. There
is a strong effort to replace it with X.400 and other protocols, but
the X.25 (and TCP/IP) base of users will prevent a sudden and dramatic
change.
I wish you luck with your efforts to get more members e-mail connected.
Several of us, including Jax and myself have been singing that same song
here, but people who do not use e-mail can not imagine what a powerful
tool it is. You may have to resort to placing it in a few hands and then
take it away after they have discovered the rich world they can tap into.
Then they will be eager to be included.
Gary
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Category 14, Topic 8 Message 60 Sun Aug 26, 1990 B.RODRIGUEZ2 [Brad R.] at 16:34 EDT I'll attempt a direct reply to Borja via Usenet, but I thought I'd post a general reply here. AX.25 is the X.25 variant developed by amateur radio operators for packet radio. (I'm still learning, but I gather that the main differences are in node identification, to satisfy legal requirements for amateur radio transmitters.) The amateur packet radio network includes low-speed, long-haul HF (3 to 30 MHz) links, and high-speed, local-area VHF and UHF links. I am interested in such a proposal. I'm planning to acquire a packet interface for my HF rig in a few weeks. At present I have no VHF capability, alas. Incidentally, in June I sent a similar proposal back with Igor Agamirzian of the Forthinfo coop in Leningrad, and he has forwarded it to the Soviet amateurs' magazine "Radio." Anyone else interested in this? - Brad, VE3RHJ ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us
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Category 14, Topic 8
Message 65 Mon Nov 19, 1990
GARY-S at 06:42 EST
Lance -
I just received a forwarded message from jax that you originated.
re: comp.lang.forth <-> ForthNet
- I receive usenet newsgroup comp.lang.forth, and generally have to
hand sort and stuff the messages onto GEnie's Forth RoundTable.
- Doug Philips reverses this process by retrieving messages off of
GEnie's Forth RoundTable and forwarding them to comp.lang.forth.
His task is much more automated, because he has to deliver _all_
messages in common to only one target. It would be totally auto-
mated except he must hand-reject those not permitted on comp.lang.
forth. ie: blatantly commercial and idle chatter are killed.
- Jim Wenzel, SysOp of Grapevine is the other major cog. Jim retreives
messages off GEnie and stuffs them into conference 58 on Grapevine.
His task is _totally_ automated since he need only filter all the
capture through a trap to remove messages I have tagged with the
Ported from xCFB's => header.
- I also complete this loop by retrieving messages from Grapevine
and hand sorting them and stuffing them in the appropriate category
and topic on GEnie. I can automate the kill on messages that Jim
retrieved from GEnie, but I have no way to sort except manually.
- Ray and Jax have already begun their maildrops on Grapevine, so we
have benefit of their messages along with those that come off RIME.
We are missing yours and Jack Browns' traffic. Grapevine is debugged
so you need only register on 501-753-8121. Thereafter you can use
501-753-6859 which will hunt if busy and the other line is open.
Please try to get ACFB back into the loop, Lance.
re: my UUCP address:
I am sending this from my home site, so you should have a complete
path. The bang path from uunet is ...
uunet!ddi1!lrark!glsrk!gars
please note, the backbone is d d i 1 (one) not l (el)
Lance, you will probably have to use an explicit bang path until all
path lists are updated.
Best regards, Gary
__ _ (Gary Smith) uunet!ddi1!lrark!glsrk!gars * gars@glsrk.uucp *
/ _' _ _ (_' P. O. Drawer 7680 * GEnie Forth RT & Unix RT SysOp *
/__/ (_|_/ '._) Little Rock,AR 72217 * winken!well!gars * claris!wet!gars *
---------------- - U. S. A. - * ames!chinet!gars * ph:501-227-7817 *
I chatted with Jim after I had sent you the above via uucp, so I hope
you will also read this, Lance. Jimadvises there is RIME activity in
OZ, and it would be a relatively simple matter for you to link ACFB
with an Australian RIME hub. If you can not locate one from your end,
we can gather that information and forward it to you. cheers - gars
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Date: 12-22-90 (19:31) Number: 642 of 656 (Echo)
To: GARY SMITH Refer#: NONE
From: JIM WENZEL Read: NO
Subj: OZ board. Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
Gary,
Saw a message where the Aussie board had dropped off of rime due to
costs... so as of right now.. I don't think we have an Aussie on the
network.
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In article <2169.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us>, ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) writes: > > Date: 12-22-90 (19:31) Number: 642 of 656 (Echo) > To: GARY SMITH Refer#: NONE > From: JIM WENZEL Read: NO > Subj: OZ board. Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE > Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+) > > Gary, > > Saw a message where the Aussie board had dropped off of rime due to > costs... so as of right now.. I don't think we have an Aussie on the > network. Wot's this about no Aussies? I'm here, but on the net, not GEnie. I tried to figure out how to access GEnie some time ago, but to no avail. How can I use OTC (Overseas Telecommunications Commission) and their Data Access service to get into GEnie via telenet or Tymnet or some other sneaky standard way? Ronn I'm here. . .