ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (12/12/90)
Category 1, Topic 43 Message 8 Mon Dec 10, 1990 W.FEDERICI at 21:04 PST I get the impression that Atari machines are marketed much more seriously in Europe, especially as platforms for the kind of business applications that most here automatically put on MS-DOS boxes. I wonder why? - Wilson ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (12/13/90)
Category 1, Topic 43 Message 9 Tue Dec 11, 1990 B.RODRIGUEZ2 [Brad] at 22:48 EST In reply to David Douthitt (rat@madnix.UUCP), re. SNOBOL functions implemented in Forth... > Can I get a gander at those when your done? The first, very rough draft was done about a year ago, and reported in two sections, at Rochester '89 and FORML '89. See "Strings, Associative Access, and Memory Allocation" by Dr. N. Solntseff and yours truly, Journal of Forth Application & Research Vol. 6 No. 2, and "Pattern Matching in Forth" by yours truly, in the 1989 FORML Conference Proceedings. This version is rather heavily tailored for the 80x86; e.g., most of the memory allocator is in CODE definitions. (A weakness of mine.) Also, there is at least one known bug in the pattern matching word set (the grouping operators don't work right). Finally, it's all written in a fig-Forth derivative. So it's not directly usable by others, which is why it hasn't been posted yet. If you're really determined, I'd be happy to send you the complete source code, and (if I can find it) a disk copy of my thesis on the project -- about 200 pages, double-spaced. > Phew! 2M+? Bunga bunga. Does it function in 1M? Actually, it functions in less than 192K. The complete package uses about 6K of program space in my 64K Forth segment (simple 16-bit model). It reserves two more 64K segments for data: one for dynamically-allocated memory, and one for the hash table. (In SNOBOL, _everything_ gets hashed.) One of the big reasons for the switch to the 68000 is that I want to write a pedagogical version of the memory system, entirely in high- level. The code will be cleaner, simpler, and more portable if I can do linear addressing within the Forth dictionary space using a 32-bit Forth. - Brad ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (12/22/90)
Date: 12-18-90 (16:56) Number: 598 of 618
To: W.FEDERICI Refer#: 486
From: DENNIS MCCUNNEY Read: NO
Subj: ATARI FORTH'S Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
WW3 I get the impression that Atari machines are marketed much more
WW3 seriously in Europe, especially as platforms for the kind of
WW3 business applications that most here automatically put on MS-DOS
WW3 boxes. I wonder why?
From what I've seen, Atari would LIKE to be tkaen seriously here.
The problem is two-fold:
1. A lingering perception of Atari as a producer of low-end
computers for kids and games machines - not serious business
engines.
2. Questions about the financial stability of Atari itself and its
continued presence in the marketplace.
They are simply more accepted in Europe than here.
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Date: 12-21-90 (12:33) Number: 643 of 656 To: DENNIS MCCUNNEY Refer#: 598 From: ANIL RODRIX Read: NO Subj: ATARI FORTH'S Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Atari also shot themselves in the foot - they sort of ignored the US market and didnt treat dealers too well. People who wanted ST' s couldnt find a place to buy them. One horror story says someone even forgot to place the order for 1990 assignment for the US, which I almost believe. There is no store around here you can go in and get an ST off the shelf. PCRelay:PROPC -> #288 RelayNet (tm) 4.10 Pittsburgh ProPC BBS (412) 321-6645 <<<>>> ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You cannot Reply to the author using email. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, whatever). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (01/20/91)
Date: 01-18-91 (04:42) Number: 896 of 899 (Echo)
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: MIKE NEMETH Read: HAS REPLIES
Subj: FORST.ARC FOR ATARI ST Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
I downloaded forst from the RCFB. The executables don't seem to run
on my 1040 st . Has any else gotten it to run?
NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth!
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Date: 01-18-91 (20:42) Number: 897 of 899 (Echo)
To: MIKE NEMETH Refer#: 2593
From: JACK WOEHR Read: NO
Subj: FORST.ARC FOR ATARI ST Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
Mike, there was some kinda problem with FORST ... I heard about
it ... I think there is a new re-post on GEnie and if so I will download
it shortly.
=jax=
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[There was a post about FORST2.ARC, but I was never able to download it
and it has subsequently disappeared from the library with no explanation.
I have kept the requests for it pending in the hopes it will show up again.
-dwp]
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Category 1, Topic 43 Message 15 Mon Jan 21, 1991 W.FEDERICI at 23:50 PST I've finally had some time to examine ForST (John Redmond's 68000 subroutine- threaded Forth). It looks worth developing further. I've uploaded some over- long comments on my benchmarking adventures as FORTEST.TXT, for the annoyance of those who care to download them. Also, I believe the corrected version of the ForST file is now available. - Wilson ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You cannot Reply to the author using email. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, whatever). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp