ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (09/15/90)
Date: 09-13-90 (15:08) Number: 3771 (Echo) To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: BARTON MEEKS Read: (N/A) Subj: FORTH FOR 8031/8051 Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE I am interested in getting Forth running on an 8031. Preferably this would be a public domain sort of thing with source, but any info would help greatly. ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (09/15/90)
Date: 09-12-90 (08:44) Number: 726 (Echo)
To: DONALD BENSCH Refer#: 719
From: JACK WOEHR Read: NO
Subj: FORTH & SBC Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
There's a new book advertised in the latest FORTH Dimensions
magazine about putting Forth on the 8031 from scratch. I believe it's by
the author of BRYTE Forth, a commercial Forth for the 8031 that appears
to have stopped being vended; at least it doesn't seem to be advertised
anymore.
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In article <1741.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us>, ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) writes: > > From: BARTON MEEKS Read: (N/A) > Subj: FORTH FOR 8031/8051 Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE > > I am interested in getting Forth running on an 8031. Preferably this > would be a public domain sort of thing with source, but any info would > help greatly. I just saw abook on programming 8031/8051 in FORTH. Seems like in the latest FORTH Dimensions. Was I dreaming?
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (10/06/90)
Date: 10-04-90 (20:44) Number: 3951 To: JACK WOEHR Refer#: NONE From: LANCE COLLINS Read: NO Subj: 8051 FORTH Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Yesterday I received a copy of 'Embedded Controller Forth' by William Payne (Acedemic Press). I have only glanced at it so far as there are 527 pages of fairly fine print. Two thirds of the book are source code appendices. So there is now a VERY comprehensive public domain 8051 Forth. The book says on page xiv "Disk copies of all the software included in this book and additional FORTH documentation are available from participating 8051 family hardware vendors." Can anyone out there convert this statement into a specific procedure for obtaining the source on disk? Lance --- * Via ProDoor 3.0 NET/Mail : Australian Connection Forth Board (Melbourne) 61 3 8091787 ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (10/21/90)
Date: 10-07-90 (13:43) Number: 4016 To: JACK WOEHR Refer#: NONE From: WILLIAM GILES Read: 10-08-90 (09:08) Subj: COMMENT Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE I just got a copy of a new book called "Embedded Controller FORTH for the 8051 Family" by William H. Payne of Sandia National Laboratories, ISBN 0-12-547570-5, published by Academic Press. This book is about two thirds listings of the source code, which is declared to be in the public domain. The book contains a FORTH for the PC, a Metacompiler, an operating system for an 8051 target system and a terminal emulator to talk to the target system. It appears to be a system that was developed over a period of several years and is quite complex. There is very little in the way of the system and the reader is expected to get this information from the listings. The author says that source code and FORTH Encyclopedias for this system are available on disk from "participating hardware vendors", but does not give any names. It is also supposed to be posted on some bulletin boards, but, again, no names re given. Are you aware of this book or any one who has the disks or files available? When I realized the amountof time nedded to retype the listings would take, I thought that I would try find the files first. Any help that you might give would be appreciated. Bill NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth! ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (11/19/90)
Date: 11-16-90 (23:50) Number: 225 of 227 (Echo) To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: JACK WOEHR Read: (N/A) Subj: 8051 FORTH FOR LANCE Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Who has the executables & source for the Forth that the guy who wrote Bryte Forth and wrote that book about 8031/51 Forths said would be around? Is it up on GEnie yet? Lance in Oz is looking for it. =jax= NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth! <<<>>> ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (11/26/90)
Date: 11-19-90 (10:18) Number: 254 of 269 (Echo) To: JACK WOEHR Refer#: 225 From: RAY DUNCAN Read: NO Subj: 8051 FORTH FOR LANCE Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+) >who has the executables and source for the Forth that the guy who >wrote BRYTE Forth and wrote that book about 8031/51 Forths said >would be around These are not the same guy, I don't think. Christopher Johnson of BRYTE wrote the really nice 8031/51 Forth, while Bill Payne of Sandia Labs wrote the book that included the 8031/51 Forth. Perhaps the two Forths are related indirectly but I don't think Johnson and Payne worked together on the book. NET/Mail : LMI Forth Board, Los Angeles, CA (213) 306-3530 <<<>>> ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ritchie@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (David Ritchie) (11/27/90)
> These are not the same guy, I don't think. Christopher Johnson of BRYTE > wrote the really nice 8031/51 Forth, while Bill Payne of Sandia Labs > wrote the book that included the 8031/51 Forth. Perhaps the two Forths > are related indirectly but I don't think Johnson and Payne worked > together on the book. > From where is the Forth mentioned in the Payne book available? The book said "a major silicon vendor". Could anyone be more specific? -- Dave Ritchie ritchie@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (11/27/90)
Date: 11-23-90 (22:15) Number: 276 of 281 (Echo)
To: RAY DUNCAN Refer#: 254
From: JACK WOEHR Read: NO
Subj: 8051 FORTH FOR LANCE Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
-> >who has the executables and source for the Forth that the guy who
-> >wrote BRYTE Forth and wrote that book about 8031/51 Forths said
-> >would be around
-> These are not the same guy, I don't think. Christopher Johnson of
-> BRYTE wrote the really nice 8031/51 Forth, while Bill Payne of Sandia
-> Labs wrote the book that included the 8031/51 Forth. Perhaps the two
-> Forths are related indirectly but I don't think Johnson and Payne
-> worked together on the book.
Aha ... now I don't know *anything* ! So who has the Forth?
Where's the beef? Who fired first on Ft. Sumter?
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Date: 12-07-90 (22:28) Number: 417 of 417 (Echo) To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: TOM SCHOTLAND Read: (N/A) Subj: FORTH FOR 8051 Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Does anyone know where I can obtain Forth for the 8051 series of microcontrollers ? I would like to be able to develop code interactively, but make it ROMable after development is complete, so that the final code requires only the internal RAM on the 8051/2 to run. Forth, Inc. has a system like this, but it's way out of my price range (it's called ChipForth, and it costs $3200). Help! -- Tom Schotland NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth! <<<>>> ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (12/10/90)
Category 3, Topic 38 Message 20 Sun Dec 09, 1990 B.RODRIGUEZ2 [Brad] at 11:20 EST For everything you ask, you might consider MPE-Forth by MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd. "Umbilical Forth" for the 8051 is about $1500 U.S., depending on the current exchange rate. You'll also need an EPROM emulator; the one they support is around $850 U.S., or you can write your own drivers for another. MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd., 133 Hill Lane, Shirley, Southampton, U.K., SO1 5AF, telephone 011-44-703-631-441. U.S. dealer is Boris Nashanchik, Amics Enterprises, 2604 Elmwood Ave., Suite 108, Rochester NY 14618, (716) 461-9187. I believe LMI supports the 8051 target, but not interactively. If you're really strapped, your final resort is to buy William Payne's "Embedded Controller Forth" from Academic Press, $60 or so, which includes listings for an 8051 Forth and a metacompiler. You'll have to type them in; no one has found them in machine readable form yet. Not interactive, and I don't know if it will run using only the internal RAM. To my knowledge, there are no public domain (FIG, 79, 83, eForth, etc.) 8051 Forths yet. If you'd like to write one, I'd be happy to send you source and documentation -- such as it is -- for the interactive metacompiler I presented at last year's Rochester conf. It needs a bit of work. - Brad ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (12/13/90)
Date: 12-10-90 (19:02) Number: 482 of 483 (Echo)
To: B.RODRIGUEZ2 [BRAD] Refer#: 436
From: RAY DUNCAN Read: NO
Subj: FINDING A FORTH FOR THE 8 Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
>I believe LMI supports the 8051 target, but not interactively
No, we support the compilation of a full interactive 8051/31 kernel.
The kernel can use the PC as a disk server, but it isn't obligated to.
We also supply source code for a ROMable assembler so you can write and
test CODE definitions interactively on the 8051/31.
NET/Mail : LMI Forth Board, Los Angeles, CA (213) 306-3530
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Category 3, Topic 38
Message 22 Wed Dec 12, 1990
D.RUFFER [Dennis] at 21:15 EST
I just got a book in that might be interesting to those of you working on 8051
systems. It is:
Embedded Controller FORTH
For the 8051 Family
William H. Payne
1990 Academic Press, Inc.
ISBN 0-12-547570-5
It has an interesting table of contents (which I won't type in) and includes a
complete nucleus for the 8051 and a PC version of Forth that you can type in
from the hex listing (oh boy :-). The author has placed all of the code (it
appears) in the public domain and much of it looks likes it originates from
F83. They also do include source for the Nautilus Cross Compilers for those
who have that system.
Has anyone read this book? Is it worth while? Does the code work? Is the
code available in electronic format?
I obviously haven't read it yet, but I thought I'd get the ball rolling before
I go looking for another round toit.
DaR
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Date: 12-28-90 (23:49) Number: 704 of 705 (Echo) To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: BOB SCHEMMEL Read: (N/A) Subj: 8051 & FORTH Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+) The company I work for uses 8051's (87C51,87c52) for controlling robotic theater lighting equipment. We currently use assembly language and Basic. I am interested in experimenting with forth that can target this processor. I understand there is an embedded forth version of this IC and I think the book "Embedded Forth for Control" by some people at Sandia Labs deals with just such a chip however the people who have purchased it seem put off by the technical detail and extensive source code listings. I am curious if anyone has actually tried an embedded forth 8051 or barring that, has anyone used forth to target that chip with a metacompiler and/or native code compiler. I have LMI's PC/FORTH 3.2 and have not really learned it enough yet to use it at work but that is my objective, hence I would be curious if anyone has used LMI's 8051 metacompiler/code optimizer or such to improve the performance of there 8051 equipment. I would be especially curious about anyone who WAS using assembly language and or Basic and then tried forth for the 8051, since I would like to interest the engineering dept. here in the difference between these two software approaches. Anything in the way of first hand accounts of people who switched to forth for the 8051 would certainly carry alot of weight to interest the people here who are receptive but would like to see evidence of the difference. I don't need any convincing myself, I am merely looking for something to show the people at work. I would appreciate anyone's input. Bob NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth! <<<>>> ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You cannot Reply to the author using email. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, whatever). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) (01/01/91)
If anyone gets information on this, posting of it would be appreciated. I'm supposed to eventually work on a project for a friend implementing a planetary clock in a small hardware device. I have been considering using the 8051 for such, since (as I understand it) it is quite flexible, and I would probably only need an LCD controller, LCD, and supporting hardware to develop what I want to do. I'm a forth novice, but a native forth version of this chip would help me both get a better grasp of the language and simplify my development phase for the project. My internet address is in the sig, if you are capable of email.... -- ----- Pete Hartman pwh@bradley.bradley.edu Haazavaa?
jax@well.sf.ca.us (Jack J. Woehr) (01/02/91)
pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes: ... <stuff> ... >using the 8051 for such, since (as I understand it) it is quite flexible, ... <stuff> ... >I'm a forth novice, but a native forth version of this chip would help In reply, I repost: In the years that I have been discussing Forth on USENET, one of the most frequently-asked questions I have received is: "Where is a PD Forth for the 8051?" Dr. C.H. Ting's October 1990 newsletter for his "Offete Enterprises" samizdat house (garage, actually) contains the following two items: 2104. eForth Model and 8086 Implementation, Bill Muench and C.H. Ting -- $25.00 >>>>> 2105. 8051 eForth, C. H. Ting -- $25.00 <<<<< "A small ROM based Forth system ... Source code is in MASM (!! -jax) ... IBM 5.25 disk ... With 8051 eForth Implementation Note." The address & phone is: Offete Enterprises, Inc. 1306 South "B" Street San Mateo, CA 94402 (415) 574-8250 Alternatively, EFORTH51.ZIP may be downloaded free of charge from the RealTime Control and Forth Board (RCFB), ( telephone number in the .signature below), or from the GEnie Forth Interest Group RoundTable (page 711). -- <jax@well.{UUCP,sf.ca.us} >< Member, > /// ///\\\ \\\ /// <well!jax@lll-winken.arpa >< X3J14 TC > /// /// \\\ \\\/// <JAX on GEnie >< for ANS > \\\ /// ///====\\\ ///\\\ <SYSOP RCFB (303) 278-0364>< Forth > \\\/// /// \\\ /// \\\
dcp@world.std.com (David C. Petty) (01/07/91)
In article <2184.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us>, BOB SCHEMMEL writes: `` ... I understand there is an embedded forth version of this `` IC and I think the book "Embedded Forth for Control" by some people at `` Sandia Labs deals with just such a chip however the people who have `` purchased it seem put off by the technical detail and extensive source `` code listings. The book is _Embedded Controller Forth for the 8051_ by William I. Payne of Sandia National Laboratories. It describes a FIG-Forth system for the 8051 complete with a version of the Nautilus Systems Cross-compiler. I cannot vouch for the overwhelming nature of the technical detail, but it is complete. Cross-compilers are daunting at first look, but unless you have an 8051 system with an interactive Forth with which you can incrementally develop your application and a RAM configuration that allows it, you have little choice but to cross-compile it. (I _think_ the source code is available on disc from Academic Press, or from Bill Payne.) Good luck! -- David C. Petty | dcp@world.std.com | ...!{uunet,bu.edu}!world!dcp /\ POBox Two | CIS: 73607,1646 | BIX, Delphi, MCIMail: dcp / \ Cambridge, MA | `I thought I was wrong once, / \ 02140-0001 USA | but I realized I was mistaken.' /______\
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (01/10/91)
Date: 01-07-91 (07:43) Number: 800 of 802 To: BOB SCHEMMEL Refer#: 704 From: DAVE TROPEANO Read: NO Subj: 8051 & FORTH Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL I have used the LMI metatcompiler with the 8051 with no problems. Obviously, changes have to be made to the Forth source to match the target hardware, but after that it's a breeze. One negagtive comment: The internals of the 8051 forth implementation are not documented as well as they could be, so you might find yourself talking to Ray Duncan and his staff if you need help. But, the tech support is good (although available only via fax and bbs), and you shouldn't run into too many problems. Good Luck! NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth! ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You cannot Reply to the author using email. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, whatever). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (01/14/91)
Date: 01-12-91 (15:54) Number: 863 of 864 (Echo) To: JAX Refer#: NONE From: TOM SCHOTLAND Read: HAS REPLIES Subj: 8051 FORTH Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+) Hi! There have been a number of messages on this board, including some from me, about obtaining public domain 8051 Forth systems. A number of them mention a book by William Payne called "Embedded Controller Forth for the 8051 Family." Many praise the book; all complain that the code is not available. I have obtained it directly from Bill Payne, who has told me to feel free to upload to bulletin boards for general consumption. The trouble is, it's HUGE! I cannot afford to upload four disks worth of code. I would like to know if you want this on your board, and if so, can I submit it by mailing you copies of the disks ? Please leave me a mailing address if you want it. --Tom NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth! <<<>>> ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You cannot Reply to the author using email. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, whatever). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (01/14/91)
Date: 01-12-91 (17:57) Number: 864 of 864 (Echo)
To: TOM SCHOTLAND Refer#: 2549
From: JACK WOEHR Read: NO
Subj: 8051 FORTH Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
Tom --
Would be only too glad to have it!
Mail to:
RealTime Control & Forth Board
7100 W. 44th Ave.
Suite #101
Wheat Ridge, CO 80033
Your disks and postage will be returned to you.
Thanx for the offer!
=jax=
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Date: 01-22-91 (19:26) Number: 966 of 966 (Echo)
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: JACK WOEHR Read: (N/A)
Subj: W.H. PAYNE EMB CONT 4TH Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
The files from W. H. Payne's _Embedded Controller Forth for the
8051_ are now available for download from the RCFB.
NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth!
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Can someone put this FORTH on SIMTEL20 or similar server ? Auke
dwpst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Douglas W Philips) (01/30/91)
In article <912@ehviea.ine.philips.nl> avbalen@ehviea.UUCP (A.G.M. van Balen) writes: >Can someone put this FORTH on SIMTEL20 or similar server ? > >Auke Since I have gotten many questions about this I thought I'd just post for all to see at once. SIMTEL20 is dedicated primarily to storing files and programs for MSDOS machines (i.e. PC's). Storing files for other architectures is not within their charter. If you have been reading this group for very long you know that I (dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp) provide email access to whatever files people choose to post about (the majority come from the FIG library located in the FORTH RTC on GEnie). This is not an ideal solution since it consumes more net resources than anonymous FTP does. If anyone knows of a site willing to donate about 30-40 Meg for the storage of Forth files (the approximate current size of the FIG library), I would be very interested to hear of it. I would certainly be willing to handle the day-to-day business of storing the files and keeping them up to date, etc. (This is not to say that the email service would be discontinued. It is the only means that some people have to get these files.) -Doug
ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (02/19/91)
Category 3, Topic 38
Message 41 Tue Feb 19, 1991
D.RUFFER [Dennis] at 00:59 EST
Re: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us (Doug Philips)
Doug, did you catch the newest additions?
[I did. Due to the vagaries of network delays, I managed to check
GEnie just before those files were put into the library, but you didn't
see my message until afterwards. -Doug]
[I'll leave them here, and repeat my email offer at the end, in case some
one missed this list before. -dwp]
No. File Name Type Address YYMMDD Bytes
2362 READ51.TXT X JAX 910216 7560
KEEP Desc: Payne's Embedded Controller Forth #1
2361 FORTH86.ZIP X JAX 910215 272160
KEEP Desc: Payne's Embedded Controller Forth #2
2360 F86DOCS.ZIP X JAX 910215 279720
KEEP Desc: Payne's Embedded Controller Forth #3
2359 MISC51.ZIP X JAX 910215 95760
KEEP Desc: Payne's Embedded Controller Forth #4
2358 FORTH51.ZIP X JAX 910215 163800
KEEP Desc: Payne's Embedded Controller Forth #5
2357 F51DOCS.ZIP X JAX 910213 296100
KEEP Desc: Payne's Embedded Controller Forth #6
Re: John.Passaniti@f201.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Passaniti)
> Ideally, this system would let me develop code on our
> IBM-pc's, cross-compile to the 8051, and then execute it
> there.
I believe that is the case with the code above.
> Additionally, I would also appreciate any information
> people may have on Z-80 Forth interpreters.
If you know about the public domain versions, then I can't tell you much more.
However, I believe both LMI and FORTH, Inc. have some support for this chip.
Ray Duncan of LMI reads these messages and maybe he can tell you more about
his product. I work for FORTH, Inc. and I will pass on you number to our
marketing people. They should be contacting you soon.
DaR
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Category 3, Topic 38 Message 42 Sat Mar 02, 1991 B.RODRIGUEZ2 [Brad] at 22:23 EST To John Passaniti: > ...I would also appreciate any information people may have on Z-80 > Forth interpreters....I need something that's supported. Ah, it's *support* you want, is it? Try MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd 133 Hill Lane - Shirley Southampton SO1 5AF U.K. telephone 703-631-441 They support both the 8051 and the Z80 (in addition to several other CPUs). I've been using their tools for a few months now and am quite pleased with them. Their dealer in the U.S. is Boris Nashanchik Amics Enterprises Inc. 2604 Elmwood Ave. Suite 108 Rochester, NY 14618 telephone (716) 461-9187 Expect to pay about US$1700 for a cross-development system. (You did say you wanted support.) - Brad ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You *cannot* reply to the author using e-mail. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, etc.). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us _or_ uunet!willett!dwp
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Date: 05-01-91 (09:01) Number: 2061 of 2065 (Echo)
To: TOM SCHOTLAND Refer#: 2031
From: JACK WOEHR Read: NO
Subj: 8051 FORTH Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
-> Has anyone been uploading the code to Bill Payne's 8051 Forth? I
-> check for messages about it whenever I log on, and never find any.
Has anyone been accessing Bill Payne's embedded controller
forth? You bet they have. Like, between that and FPC Forth it's
about half my traffic! Wish some o' these cats would upload some
stuff they are doing and post a few messages :-)
=jax=
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