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Date: 12-29-90 (17:44) Number: 707 of 724 (Echo)
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: JAMES MEYER Read: (N/A)
Subj: Tracy's ZEN Forth Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
Can anyone bring me up to date on Martin Tracy and his ZEN Forth
programs? At one time they were supposed to be test-beds/illustrations
for the ANSI Forth effort. Updated after each BASIS session. I have
seen messages on the net to Martin, but no replys from him yet.
There is something about the style and purpose behind ZEN that
appeals to my conception of what Forth should be.
Has ZEN been orphaned like so many other things? I hope not!!
Jim
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Date: 02-17-91 (21:02) Number: 1244 of 1247 (Echo)
To: RAY DUNCAN Refer#: NONE
From: GUY GEORGE Read: 02-18-91 (09:18)
Subj: COMMENT Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
The ZEN stuff looks interesting but a bit buggy.. not quite as
poished as the FPC 3.5 but looks quite a bit faster. Nice use of
segments too as far as I can see. -Gotta run.
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Date: 02-17-91 (23:22) Number: 1245 of 1247 (Echo)
To: RAY DUNCAN Refer#: NONE
From: GUY GEORGE Read: 02-18-91 (09:19)
Subj: COMMENT Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
Looks bogus, I'm afraid.
The ZEN1_10.ZIP file contains a ZEN.EXE file of 150K that is
80 percent zeroes. It appears that the EXE file was never
written correctly, but was a COM type file (RAM image) that
got renamed to EXE.
I was looking for hidden vocabularies etc. whith a disk
editor when I found this out. Thus ends another love afair.
I like the Assembler stuff in the source listings
though. I may try to get the assembler I have now to do that
quality of stuff.
Just thought I'd let you know.. in case you know someone who
could fix it. It should be about 35K at the most. It is a
bare-bones system.
(I had a bit of heartburn over the seemingly excessive header
space wasted with duplicated names also. I am not sure yet,
but I think that duplicated stuff should have been thrown out
after assembly or something. Oh, well.)
For what it's worth, I hope the ZEN does not become the ANSI
standard. It deviates too much from the grass-roots,
home-brew type of programming language that has gotten a lot
of us interested in the language in the first place.
I will learn more about what is going on in the real world
as my budget permits, though. Thanks again. -Guy (Paso Robles)
NET/Mail : LMI Forth Board, Los Angeles, CA (213) 306-3530
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Category 10, Topic 34
Message 31 Tue Apr 02, 1991
D.RUFFER [Dennis] at 22:05 EST
Re: caw@munnari.oz.au (Chris Wright)
> Is there some documentation out there on ZEN?
Sure Chris, it's the ANS BASIS document that was in affect at the time ZEN we
released. Martin's been tracking it as best he can and will soon (within
days) have a new one that tracks BASIS 15. Otherwise, I don't think he has had
much time to write up anything else. I ask him tomorrow though and let you
know.
{B-{)> DaR
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Category 10, Topic 34 Message 34 Sun May 19, 1991 GARY-S at 06:20 EDT In article <1991May17.095901.132@hls.com> tima@hls.com writes: >There is a FORTH Interest Group Forum on Compuserve. If you (or someone >you know) has an account you can download ZEN and related utilities >from the Forth Library 1. W R O N G !! There _is_ a Forth forum on CompuServe, but it is _NOT_ sponsored by Forth Interest Group. It is run by Don Colburn's Creative Solutions group - and they do a splendid job. The _only_ on-line forum represented by the Forth Interest Group is the GEnie Forth RoundTable. Zen is also available there. Gary ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You *cannot* reply to the author using e-mail. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, etc.). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us _or_ uunet!willett!dwp
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Category 10, Topic 34 Message 35 Sun May 19, 1991 D.RUFFER [Dennis] at 15:36 EDT Gary, to Don's credit, they are opening up the Creative Solutions Inc. SIG up to more of the public domain Forths. They probably will never be able to open up enought to become part of the ForthNet because of the contract they have with CompuServe. However, the work that Don is doing over there should not go unrecognized. Just of note of praise for our fellow workers. <grin> DaR ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You *cannot* reply to the author using e-mail. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, etc.). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us _or_ uunet!willett!dwp
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Category 10, Topic 34 Message 36 Mon May 20, 1991 GARY-S at 06:23 EDT No argument Dennis. I even commented they do a splendid job. All I was doing was making sure there was no misconception regarding maintenance of the respective public access Forth watering holes. I wish there were fifty more possible points of confusion. Gary ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You *cannot* reply to the author using e-mail. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, etc.). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us _or_ uunet!willett!dwp