[comp.lang.forth] Deviations

ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (04/01/91)

Category 10,  Topic 11
Message 1         Sun Mar 31, 1991
L.LISLE1 [Greg]              at 18:21 EST
 
Trying to translate one of the many fine apps in the library to another
dialect would be MUCH easier if a listing of the differences was available.  I
realize this could get massive, I have an old ('79) 360 page book that does
this for the Basics of that time. However, it would be very helpful to the
whole Forth community.

Perhaps if someone familiar with each variant were to take a common source,
perhaps F83.LEX (#536), and annotate it with the critical differences.....

Am I wishing for the moon?

                                             - L. Greg Lisle -
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koopman@a.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Philip Koopman) (04/02/91)

> Category 10,  Topic 11
> Message 1         Sun Mar 31, 1991
> L.LISLE1 [Greg]              at 18:21 EST
>  
> Trying to translate one of the many fine apps in the library to another
> dialect would be MUCH easier if a listing of the differences was available.  I
> realize this could get massive, I have an old ('79) 360 page book that does
> this for the Basics of that time. However, it would be very helpful to the
> whole Forth community.

Glen Haydon's _All About Forth (2nd. Ed.)_ has most of what you
are looking for.  It is an annotated glossary of common usage
that shows differences between the Forth "standards".  It is
much longer than 360 pages.  Last I heard, FIG sells it.

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ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (04/06/91)

Category 10,  Topic 11
Message 2         Mon Apr 01, 1991
D.RUFFER [Dennis]            at 23:46 EST
 
Re: L.LISLE1 [Greg]

 > Perhaps if someone familiar with each variant were to take a
 > common source, perhaps F83.LEX (#536), and annotate it with the
 > critical differences.....
 >
 > Am I wishing for the moon?

Almost Greg.  There are very few people who know each variant of Forth. 
However, you are not the first to wish for a cross reference, and I think much
of it has already been done. Unfortunately, my memory has slipped, but I seem
to remember seeing something like that in the library.  You might check out
R.SCHMELLE's DIARY files.  Number 9 looks like it might have something useful.

Also, I think Glen Haydon's books do a good job of covering many of the
current systems, but again, the title alludes me.  Can anyone out there
remember the title of the book I'm thinking of?

Sorry!   {B-{)>   DaR
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ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (04/06/91)

Category 10,  Topic 11
Message 3         Tue Apr 02, 1991
ATFURMAN [Alan F.]           at 19:19 PST
 
In re: variations between Forth dialects.

   _All About Forth_
   Glen B. Haydon
   3rd Edition, June 1990
   An annotated glossary of most Forth words in common usage, including
   F-79, F-83, F-PC, MVP-Forth.  Implementation examples in high-level
   Forth and/or 8086/8088 assembler.  Useful commentary is given for each
   entry.

$90.00 plus tax/shipping, less FIG member discount

Available from Forth Interest Group, P.O. Box 8231, San Jose, Ca 95155

(408) 277-0668

Listed in FIG mail order form in Forth Dimensions, item #201.
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ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) (05/28/91)

Category 10,  Topic 11
Message 6         Sat May 25, 1991
B.RODRIGUEZ2 [Brad]          at 13:24 EDT
 
Mitch Bradley, speaking of cursor tracking in ANS Forth:
 > I doubt that the value of the feature is worth the cost of the
 > delay.

Ah, if only this same cost-benefit analysis had been applied to so many other
parts of ANS Forth!

- Brad
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