fnia@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet Information Account) (06/04/91)
F O R T H O N - L I N E R E S O U R C E / T E C H N I C A L H E L P
L E T T E R
Last updated on 18 April 1991.
If you have corrections, clarifications, comments or updates,
please send them to one or more of the addresses at the end of
this note.
Hello,
This post is to introduce you to the resources available to
those who read comp.lang.forth and can also send UseNet/Internet mail
or do anonynmous FTP.
This message answers the questions:
What is ForthNet?
Where do I find Forth Libraries on-line?
Answers to other frequently asked questions, such as "Where do
I find a PD/Shareware/any Forth for the FrobNitz-103?" are in a separate
article which is regularly posted to comp.lang.forth.
FORTHNET
--------
ForthNet is a virtual Forth network that links designated message
bases of several Bulletin Boards and Information Services in an
attempt to provide greater distribution of Forth related information.
ForthNet is provided courtesy of the SysOps of its various links
who shunt appropriate messages in a manual or semi-manual manner. The
current branches of ForthNet include: UseNet's comp.lang.forth,
BitNet's FIGI-L, the BBoard systems RCFB, ACFB, LMI BBS, Grapevine,
and FIG's RoundTable on GEnie. (Info on modem-accessible systems is
included below).
The various branches of ForthNet do not have the same rules of
appropriate postings or ettiquette. Many BBoard posts are very chatty
and contain some personal information, and some also contain blatant
commercial advertising. Most comp.lang.forth posts are not like that.
ForthNet messages that are ported into comp.lang.forth from the rest
of the ForthNet all originate on GEnie, which is a kind of defacto
ForthNet message hub. All such messages are ported into
comp.lang.forth with a from line of the form:
From: ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us ...
Most messages ported to comp.lang.forth also contain some trailer
information as to where they actually originated, if it was not on
GEnie.
**** NOTE: ****
There is NO E-MAIL link between the various
branches of ForthNet. If you need to get a
message through to someone on another branch,
please either make your message general enough
to be of interest to the whole net, or contact
said person by phone, USMail, or some other
means. Thoughtful message authors place *a few*
lines at the end of their messages describing
how to contact them (electronicly or otherwise).
Phone information for the dial-in services mentioned above:
RCFB (Real-Time Control Forth Board) 303-278-0364
SysOp: Jack Woehr
Location: Denver, Colorado -USA-
ACFB (Australia Connection Forth Board) 03-809-1787 in Australia
61-3-809-1787 International
SysOp: Lance Collins
Location: Melbourne, Victoria -AUSTRALIA-
LMI BBS (Laboratory Microsystems, Inc.) 213-306-3530
SysOp: Ray Duncan
Location: Marina del Ray, California -USA-
Grapevine (Grapevine RIME hub) 501-753-8121 to register
501-753-6859 thereafter
SysOp: Jim Wenzel
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas -USA-
GEnie 800-638-9636 for information
(General Electric Network for Information Service)
SysOps: Dennis Ruffer(D.RUFFER)
Leonard Morgenstern(NMORGENSTER)
Gary Smith(GARY-S)
Location: Forth RoundTable - type M710 or FORTH
FORTH LIBRARIES
---------------
There are several repositories of Forth programs, sources,
executables, and so on. These various repositories are NOT indentical
copies of the same things. Material is available on an AS-IS basis
due to the charity of the people involved in maintaining the
libraries. There are several ways to access Forth Libraries:
FTP
---
**** NOTE: ****
You can only use FTP if you are on an Internet
site which supports FTP (some sites may restrict
certain classes of users). If you have any
questions about this, contact your system
administrator for information. Your system
administrator should always be your first line
of resort if you have any difficulties or
questions about using FTP.
For MSDOS related files there are currently two sites from which
you can anonymously FTP Forth related materials:
WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (Simtel20 for short)
WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU (Wuarchive for short)
Wuarchive maintains a "mirror" of the material available on Simtel20.
Simtel20 has a limited amount of material, most of it binaries for
MSDOS computers. The Forth files on Simtel20 are in directory
'PD1:<MSDOS.FORTH>'. The Forth files on Wuarchive are in directory
'/mirror/msdos/forth'. For detailed information on how use FTP and
the Simtel20 archive see the text files in: (it is too much to include here)
PD1:<MSDOS.STARTER>SIMTEL20.INF or
/mirrors/starter/simtel20.inf
EMAIL access to FTP sites
-------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 09:13:41 CST
From: pitt!sifvs9.SINet.SLB.COM!fisher
Message-Id: <9104021513.AA10971@SLCS.SLB.COM>
Subject: Re: F.O.R/T.H. Letter
Firstly, F.O.R/T.H. mentions BITNET/EARN servers for SIMTEL20 in
passing. These may easily be accessed via EMail if you can
provide an EMail path to and from the Internet.
Mail a message containing 'help' in the body of the message to either :-
listserv@rpiecs.bitnet
or listserv@ndsuvm1.bitnet
Secondly, all FTP sites are accessable from Internet using a
program at Princeton Uni. called BITFTP. This allows you to send
whatis basically an FTP batch job to BITFTP@PUCC.BITNET, which
will execute the job and mail any files back to you in UUENCODED
format.
Mail a message containing 'help' in the body of the message to :-
bitftp@pucc.bitnet
Craig Fisher |**** fisher@sifvx6.sinet.slb.com ****
Schlumberger Technologies |
Instruments Division | Disclamer: These views are mine,
Farnborough, Hants. UK | my boss thinks I'm working. ;-)
MODEM
-----
For those desiring (or stuck with?) to use modems, the dial-in
systems listed above also have Forth libraries.
**** NOTE: ****
GEnie is the repository of the Forth Interest
Group's official Forth Library.
**** NOTE: ****
If you are unable to access SIMTEL20 via
Internet FTP or through one of the BITNET/EARN
file servers, most SIMTEL20 MSDOS files,
including the PC-Blue collection, are available
for downloading on the Detroit Download Central
network at 313-885-3956. DDC has multiple lines
which support 300/1200/2400/9600/14400 bps
(HST/V.32/V.42/V.42bis/MNP5). This is a
subscription system with an average hourly cost
of 17 cents. It is also accessable on Telenet
via PC Pursuit and on Tymnet via StarLink
outdial. New files uploaded to SIMTEL20 are
usually available on DDC within 24 hours.
Information provided by:
Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's MSDOS,
MISC & CP/M archives [IP address 26.2.0.74]
Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or
w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Uucp: uunet!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz
BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
EMAIL
-----
For those with email only access there is not much. For now,
posts from ForthNet ported into comp.lang.forth sometimes advertise
files being available on GEnie. Those messages also contain
information on how to get UUencoded EMail copies of the same files.
There is an automated email service being developed. When it is
functional an article will be posted to comp.lang.forth with details
on who/what/how, etc. and this paragraph will be replaced by the
appropriate instructions. As many of you who have written me (Doug
Philips) know, this is nearly finished. Expect word soon!
**** NOTE: ****
EMail is the mode of last resort. EMail archive
access compared to the other forms puts the
heaviest load on the network. If you have
access to other methods, please use them!
---
If you have any questions about ForthNet/comp.lang.forth or any information
to add/delete or correct in this message or any suggestions on formatting or
presentation, please contact either Doug Philips or Gary Smith (preferably
both, but one is OK) via the following addresses:
o Internet: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us
-or- ddi1!lrark!gars@uunet.uu.net
o Usenet: ...!uunet!ddi1!lrark!gars
-or- ...!uunet!willett.pgh.pa.us!dwp
o GEnie: GARY-S or D.PHILIPS3
o ForthNet: Grapevine, Gary Smith - leave mail in Main Conference (0)fnia@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet Information Account) (06/17/91)
F O R T H O N - L I N E R E S O U R C E / T E C H N I C A L H E L P
L E T T E R
Last updated on 16 June 1991.
If you have corrections, clarifications, comments or updates,
please send them to one or more of the addresses at the end of
this note.
This is the first of two regularly posted articles to comp.lang.forth.
Both of these messages are posted on or about the 1st and the 15th of
each month. The other article's subject is:
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
That article covers more specific questions about where to get
particular versions of Forth, etc. You should probably read this
article completely before reading that one.
New with version 1.3 is a pointer to more info on how to do FTP under
the NOTE in the FTP section.
Hello,
This post is to introduce you to the resources available to
those who read comp.lang.forth and can also send UseNet/Internet mail
or do anonynmous FTP.
This message answers the questions:
What is ForthNet?
Where do I find Forth Libraries on-line?
Answers to other frequently asked questions, such as "Where do
I find a PD/Shareware/any Forth for the FrobNitz-103?" are in a separate
article which is regularly posted to comp.lang.forth.
FORTHNET
--------
ForthNet is a virtual Forth network that links designated message
bases of several Bulletin Boards and Information Services in an
attempt to provide greater distribution of Forth related information.
ForthNet is provided courtesy of the SysOps of its various links
who shunt appropriate messages in a manual or semi-manual manner. The
current branches of ForthNet include: UseNet's comp.lang.forth,
BitNet's FIGI-L, the BBoard systems RCFB, ACFB, LMI BBS, Grapevine,
and FIG's RoundTable on GEnie. (Info on modem-accessible systems is
included below).
The various branches of ForthNet do not have the same rules of
appropriate postings or ettiquette. Many BBoard posts are very chatty
and contain some personal information, and some also contain blatant
commercial advertising. Most comp.lang.forth posts are not like that.
ForthNet messages that are ported into comp.lang.forth from the rest
of the ForthNet all originate on GEnie, which is a kind of defacto
ForthNet message hub. All such messages are ported into
comp.lang.forth with a from line of the form:
From: ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us ...
Most messages ported to comp.lang.forth also contain some trailer
information as to where they actually originated, if it was not on
GEnie.
**** NOTE: ****
There is NO E-MAIL link between the various
branches of ForthNet. If you need to get a
message through to someone on another branch,
please either make your message general enough
to be of interest to the whole net, or contact
said person by phone, USMail, or some other
means. Thoughtful message authors place *a few*
lines at the end of their messages describing
how to contact them (electronicly or otherwise).
Phone information for the dial-in services mentioned above:
RCFB (Real-Time Control Forth Board) 303-278-0364
SysOp: Jack Woehr
Location: Denver, Colorado -USA-
ACFB (Australia Connection Forth Board) 03-809-1787 in Australia
61-3-809-1787 International
SysOp: Lance Collins
Location: Melbourne, Victoria -AUSTRALIA-
LMI BBS (Laboratory Microsystems, Inc.) 213-306-3530
SysOp: Ray Duncan
Location: Marina del Ray, California -USA-
Grapevine (Grapevine RIME hub) 501-753-8121 to register
501-753-6859 thereafter
SysOp: Jim Wenzel
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas -USA-
GEnie 800-638-9636 for information
(General Electric Network for Information Service)
SysOps: Dennis Ruffer(D.RUFFER)
Leonard Morgenstern(NMORGENSTER)
Gary Smith(GARY-S)
Location: Forth RoundTable - type M710 or FORTH
FORTH LIBRARIES
---------------
There are several repositories of Forth programs, sources,
executables, and so on. These various repositories are NOT indentical
copies of the same things. Material is available on an AS-IS basis
due to the charity of the people involved in maintaining the
libraries. There are several ways to access Forth Libraries:
FTP
---
**** NOTE: ****
You can only use FTP if you are on an Internet
site which supports FTP (some sites may restrict
certain classes of users). If you have any
questions about this, contact your system
administrator for information. Your system
administrator should always be your first line
of resort if you have any difficulties or
questions about using FTP.
You can also read comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d where you can
find a regulary posted article with the subject:
Beginner's Guide to FTP
For MSDOS related files there are currently two sites from which
you can anonymously FTP Forth related materials:
WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (Simtel20 for short)
WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU (Wuarchive for short)
Wuarchive maintains a "mirror" of the material available on Simtel20.
Simtel20 has a limited amount of material, most of it binaries for
MSDOS computers. The Forth files on Simtel20 are in directory
'PD1:<MSDOS.FORTH>'. The Forth files on Wuarchive are in directory
'/mirror/msdos/forth'. For detailed information on how use FTP and
the Simtel20 archive see the text files in: (it is too much to include here)
PD1:<MSDOS.STARTER>SIMTEL20.INF or
/mirrors/starter/simtel20.inf
EMAIL access to FTP sites
-------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 09:13:41 CST
From: pitt!sifvs9.SINet.SLB.COM!fisher
Message-Id: <9104021513.AA10971@SLCS.SLB.COM>
Subject: Re: F.O.R/T.H. Letter
Firstly, F.O.R/T.H. mentions BITNET/EARN servers for SIMTEL20 in
passing. These may easily be accessed via EMail if you can
provide an EMail path to and from the Internet.
Mail a message containing 'help' in the body of the message to either :-
listserv@rpiecs.bitnet
or listserv@ndsuvm1.bitnet
Secondly, all FTP sites are accessable from Internet using a
program at Princeton Uni. called BITFTP. This allows you to send
whatis basically an FTP batch job to BITFTP@PUCC.BITNET, which
will execute the job and mail any files back to you in UUENCODED
format.
Mail a message containing 'help' in the body of the message to :-
bitftp@pucc.bitnet
Craig Fisher |**** fisher@sifvx6.sinet.slb.com ****
Schlumberger Technologies |
Instruments Division | Disclamer: These views are mine,
Farnborough, Hants. UK | my boss thinks I'm working. ;-)
MODEM
-----
For those desiring (or stuck with?) to use modems, the dial-in
systems listed above also have Forth libraries.
**** NOTE: ****
GEnie is the repository of the Forth Interest
Group's official Forth Library.
**** NOTE: ****
If you are unable to access SIMTEL20 via
Internet FTP or through one of the BITNET/EARN
file servers, most SIMTEL20 MSDOS files,
including the PC-Blue collection, are available
for downloading on the Detroit Download Central
network at 313-885-3956. DDC has multiple lines
which support 300/1200/2400/9600/14400 bps
(HST/V.32/V.42/V.42bis/MNP5). This is a
subscription system with an average hourly cost
of 17 cents. It is also accessable on Telenet
via PC Pursuit and on Tymnet via StarLink
outdial. New files uploaded to SIMTEL20 are
usually available on DDC within 24 hours.
Information provided by:
Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's MSDOS,
MISC & CP/M archives [IP address 26.2.0.74]
Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or
w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Uucp: uunet!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz
BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
EMAIL
-----
For those with email only access there is not much. For now,
posts from ForthNet ported into comp.lang.forth sometimes advertise
files being available on GEnie. Those messages also contain
information on how to get UUencoded EMail copies of the same files.
There is an automated email service being developed. When it is
functional an article will be posted to comp.lang.forth with details
on who/what/how, etc. and this paragraph will be replaced by the
appropriate instructions. As many of you who have written me (Doug
Philips) know, this is nearly finished. Expect word soon!
**** NOTE: ****
EMail is the mode of last resort. EMail archive
access compared to the other forms puts the
heaviest load on the network. If you have
access to other methods, please use them!
---
If you have any questions about ForthNet/comp.lang.forth or any information
to add/delete or correct in this message or any suggestions on formatting or
presentation, please contact either Doug Philips or Gary Smith (preferably
both, but one is OK) via the following addresses:
o Internet: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us
-or- ddi1!lrark!gars@uunet.uu.net
o Usenet: ...!uunet!ddi1!lrark!gars
-or- ...!uunet!willett.pgh.pa.us!dwp
o GEnie: GARY-S or D.PHILIPS3
o ForthNet: Grapevine, Gary Smith - leave mail in Main Conference (0)