thomas@sertne.Dayton.NCR.COM (Scott A. Thomas) (09/11/87)
First of all thanks to everyone who responded to my question about the availability of Smalltalk on the Amiga. The results were that there appears to be a PD version on Fish disk #37. This version does not support the graphical interface but is apparently written in C so a person can easily add new features. At this point I have not received any responses that describe a version that does support a graphical interface. I personally would be willing to pay a reasonable amount of money for such a system, since there is a version of Smalltalk/V for a PC that supports a mouse, and graphics and cost less that $100. And the PC is braindamaged when it comes to hi-res graphics and mice. Maybe there'll be a better version out in the near future after the A2000 becomes available. Thanks again. -- Scott A. Thomas CSNET (thomas@sertne.Dayton.NCR.COM) NCR Corporation Voice: (513) 865-8119 SE-Retail, SER-2 Disclaimer: These are only my thoughts and not my Dayton, OH 45479 employers.
ralph@mit-atrp.UUCP (Amiga-Man) (09/12/87)
I'll put in my vote for it too: Someone please do a heavy-duty version of Smalltalk for the Amiga that does graphics and mice ! I'd buy it.
mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer) (09/15/87)
In article <188@sertne.Dayton.NCR.COM> thomas@sertne.Dayton.NCR.COM (Scott A. Thomas) writes:
<The results were that there appears to be a PD version on Fish disk #37. This
<version does not support the graphical interface but is apparently written in
<C so a person can easily add new features.
1) There is support for the Unix plot(3?) routines in Little
Smalltalk. I have an untested implementation of those routines for the
Amiga. You're welcome to them if you want them. But I wouldn't
recommend it, because:
2) Dr. Budd (the author of the system) recommends against hacking on
Little Smalltalk to try and turn it into something approaching a
full-blown smalltalk. It was written so he could teach his students
about object-oriented programming on Unix with ASCII terminals. It's
great for that, but is to slow for real applications. However:
3) If you're going to use Little Smalltalk to play with Smalltalk, get
Dr. Budds book "A Little Smalltalk." It's well written, and guides you
through object-oriented programming quite nicely. About half of it
discusses the guts of Little Smalltalk, and should probably be
required if you want to hack on it.
<I personally would be willing to pay a reasonable amount of money for such a
<system, since there is a version of Smalltalk/V for a PC that supports a mouse,
<and graphics and cost less that $100. And the PC is braindamaged when it comes
<to hi-res graphics and mice.
How about Scheme + SCOOPS or a Common LISP + Common LOOPS with hooks
for graphics? I'd prefer that to Smalltalk, and a good LISP system for
the Amiga is something I'm going to take a crack at in the foreseeable
future.
<mike
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