[net.movies] Godzilla 85

mff@wuphys.UUCP (Swamp Thing) (11/11/85)

I just forked over actual money to see Godzilla 85.  Since I haven't seen
anyone mention it, I thought I'd give some impressions.
I was unsure how they would handle the special effects.  Half the fun of
watching the original was the truley awful effects.  Well, have no fear, they
didn't ruin that part of the movie.  The planes (now F-14s) still crashed into
the ground on clearly-visable wires, and the monster is still a guy in a rubber
suit.
   Raymomd Burr is back again, with just as important a role as before.  The
pentagon calls him up for advice, and he stands around in a situation room and
spews forth some really pithy sayings ("So you think he's dead, do you?")
   I don't want to say any more for fear fo spoiling it. :-)
But I am curious about one thing.  I have heard that the original Japaneese
version did not have Burr in it.  If you watch it, you see that he is never
seen with more than a few actors around.  He isn't in any of the big crowd
scenes.  Does anyone know if this is true?  Also, they showed some scenes from
the original movie in God. 85.  There was one which 
looked like a shot of Hiroshima after the bomb fell, with radiation-scarred
victims laying in a hallway.  I don't remember this being in the version
released here.  Does anyone else?  I have always suspected that the original
Japaneese version was more anti-nuclear than the one released hear.  Has anyone
seen it ( assuming that it exists) and care to comment?


						Mark F. Flynn
						Department of Physics
						Washington University
						St. Louis, MO  63130
						ihnp4!wuphys!mff

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yeff@Navajo.ARPA (11/13/85)

>But I am curious about one thing.  I have heard that the original Japaneese
>version did not have Burr in it.  If you watch it, you see that he is never
>seen with more than a few actors around.  He isn't in any of the big crowd
>scenes.  Does anyone know if this is true?

yes...as far as I remember,when the movie was first being brought to the US,
it was thought that there had better be a big American "name" (Raymond 
Burr??  :-) ) in the movie so that we Americans would otherwise go see this
'meaningless' monster movie....

so they taped a buncha scenes with just him in it, and then edited the scenes
into the movie.... 

I think that they might have done the same thing with the new movie

jeff "oh no...godzilla!!"

leeper@mtgzz.UUCP (m.r.leeper) (11/16/85)

[original article never got to my system]
>>He isn't in any of the big crowd
>>scenes.  Does anyone know if this is true?
>
>yes...as far as I remember,when the movie was first being brought to
>the US, it was thought that there had better be a big American "name"
>(Raymond  Burr??  :-) ) in the movie so that we Americans would
>otherwise go see this...  I think that they might have done the same
>thing with the new movie.
>

Yes, the original superimposed Burr very crudely.  They tried to put
the Japanese woman (Emiko?) in scenes with Burr as well as in the main
body of the film, but when we see her with Burr, her back is always to
the camera so we cannot see her face.  And her blouse has a different
plaid!

At a science fiction convention I attended this year they had the new
Godzilla film as it was shown in Japan.  No English spoken (except by
American characters -- and then with Japanese subtitles) and no Raymond
Burr.

				Mark Leeper
				...ihnp4!mtgzz!leeper