[comp.lang.smalltalk] Smalltalk-80 compiler for IBM-PC compatables

petel@raoul.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Pete Lund) (08/02/89)

     I am considering taking a graduate level course in OOL, 
which requires programming in smalltalk-80.  This class is 
offered through a satellite network, and as such I do not 
have access to the computer facilities at the school offering 
the class.  Does anyone out there know if a shareware smalltalk-80 
compiler exists for the IBM-PC.  If not, how about any recommendations 
regarding commercially available products, again targeted for 
the IBM-PC?  When making suggestions, please consider that while 
I do have experience with C++, I have no prior experience with 
smalltalk.  Please respond by e-mail, and if there are numerous 
responses I will post a summary.  

Thanks in advance.
Pete Lund

Knight@scs.Carleton.CA (Alan Knight) (08/04/89)

Smalltalk-80 is available for 386 machines.  It is not, so far as I know
available in any form for 286 or 8086 and it is not available as 
shareware.  Smalltalk/V, which is similar but probably not close enough
for your course, will run on an IBM (somewhat crippled), and Smalltalk/V 286
will run on a 286 or higher machines, and is much nicer to use than plain
/V.  Things like 'A Little Smalltalk' will run (I think) on a PC, but has
no interface.
   Basically, it is impossible to fit Smalltalk-80 in 640K and it is 
   difficult to make the virtual machine work for a 286.