danr@autodesk.com (Dan Rosenfeld) (12/08/90)
Several people requested that I post the replies I received regarding Smalltalk interface builders. The following is a summary of what I received: Inside Smalltalk ---------------- Several people mentioned that the recently released book "Inside Smalltalk II" describe a "Window Maker" program. Apparently it includes code listings. (Carmelo Interone [csq003@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu] wants to know if anyone this code on-line.) It works for Smalltalk-80 Version 2.x. Widgets ------- Widgets from Acumen Software received uniformly positive 'reviews'. they seem to have a version available for Smalltalk V/286, with a V/Mac version soon to come. From: cohill@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Andrew M. Cohill) "Widgets has an interface editor, Dialog classes a la V/Mac, and a ton of new classes that implement a graphical interface, including buttons, palettes, list boxes, menu bars, panes, windows, gauges and sliders, and pull down menus." From: uunet!extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU!objtch (Peter Goodall) "There is one superb interface builder which is currently available for Smalltalk/V286 - Widgets from Acumen. Everyone I have reccomended it to has been xxx delighted. I am trying to get enough people together to influence them to do a similar system for Smalltalk/VPM,/Windows. I believe that there will be a version for Smalltalk/MAC soon." From: uunet!relay.EU.net!media01!rzo (Rob Zomerdijk) "It is nice, good-looks and has very little bugs." From: uunet!relay.EU.net!media01!mno (Mark Nouwen) "This product gives you a new interface for Smalltalk V286 and also a interface builder. We have bought it ourself and are using it in one of our products. You can compare the new interface with the three D look of windows 3.0. It really is very nice. (Digitalk should include it in there standard V286.)" From: uunet!relay.EU.net!media01!pkr (Peter Kriens) "There is a very nice interface builder which really takes advatage of the Smalltalk facilities ... It allows you to edit the human interface part of an application class. It has a nice 3d look and works in color. It is based on the same framework as X-windows. It really looks very sexy and is easy to use. A very nice thing of the package is the fact that it allows you to edit the interface while you are debugging. It is not a one way street, like many interface builders." The list price for Widgets/V 286 is $149.95. Acumen Software 2140 Shattuck Avenue, Suite 1008 Berkeley, CA 94704 Phone: (415) 649-0601 Fax: (415) 649-0514 or "Try emailing Kenn Cooper at cooper@netcom.com." Tigre ----- Also mentioned was Tigre from Tigre Object Systems. In their own words; "the Interface Designer, a full-color, machine independant Interface Builder for Smalltalk" (from a call for Job applications they posted) Seems to run on Smalltalk-80. Price is apparently $3500 per machine. From: benson@blake.u.washington.edu (Dan Benson) "A great looking 'Interface Builder' for Smalltalk-80 was demonstrated at the 1990 OOPSLA in Ottawa. It's called Tigre. I understand it is designed to work with Smalltalk-80 Release 4.0 (with color)." Tigre Object Systems, Inc. 3641 C Soquel Drive Santa Cruz, CA 95062 (408) 476-1854 FAX: (408) 479-4196 Others ------ Two other interface builders were mentioned: From: uunet!extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU!objtch (Peter Goodall) "There is one other I know of that could be good - Facets which is a co-development between ServioLogic Corporation and ParcPlace Systems for Smalltlak-80. It is also the interface builder for Servio's OODB Gemstone. Try mailing sales@parcplace.com" From: Ralph Johnson <johnson@cs.uiuc.edu> "Knowledge Systems Corporation has a nice one, but you have to be one of their consulting customers to get it, you can't just order it though the mail." ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Rosenfeld danr@autodesk.com ( ) "Enjoy life, eat out more often." o) o) oo -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- --