taylord@Software.Mitel.COM (Don Taylor) (02/11/91)
The only reply that I received to my enquiry about ST/V for Windows leads me to conclude that VERY few people have seen it yet. Sigh... I guess I will have to buy it sight unseen. Copy of reply follows: (because the guy who sent it to me is a beta tester I have deleted his attribution). To: taylord@Software.Mitel.COM Subject: V/WINDOWS Date: Sun, 27 Jan 91 16:59 EST We have beta release 0.8. It is more like PM than 286. You will like it. The envirnoment is much better. still a few bugs I hear but basically its a sound product. You don't need the SDK. Although since you can interface to SDK tools, you might want it later. Not sure how much memory but my guess is that 4Mb would be plenty Their manuals are always production quality (in my experience) Class library is larger but due to integration with Windows not PP stuff. IBM is bankrolling Digitalk not Whitewater! There is enormous interest in V/PM from major companies. V/Windows will have more of a pc-user followig,g I suspect. Support for DDE between applications in Windows is excellent. Window paradigm is much better than 286 MPD. Hope this is useful. -- Don Taylor (613)-592-2122 x 3007 mitel!taylord@uunet.uu.net Mitel Corp. ...!uunet!mitel!taylord 350 Legget Drive, Kanata Ontario, Canada, K2K 1X3
michael.daly@canrem.uucp (michael daly) (02/15/91)
Don Taylor ( mitel!taylord@uunet.uu.net ) wrote: DT>The only reply that I received to my enquiry about ST/V for Windows DT>leads me to conclude that VERY few people have seen it yet. Sigh... DT>I guess I will have to buy it sight unseen. I spoke to Digitalk on Feb 4 and they said it would ship on the 7th. It was finally released on the 12th. I should have my copy by the 21st or so. I think a number of us have been waiting on the edge of our seats for this. --- ~ DeLuxe}ab #289 ~ -- Canada Remote Systems. Toronto, Ontario NorthAmeriNet Host
ergo@netcom.COM (Isaac Rabinovitch) (02/15/91)
In <6448@taylord> taylord@Software.Mitel.COM (Don Taylor) writes: >The only reply that I received to my enquiry about ST/V for Windows >leads me to conclude that VERY few people have seen it yet. Sigh... I >guess I will have to buy it sight unseen. True, but Digitalk has a 30-day return policy. >Copy of reply follows: (because the guy who sent it to me is a beta >tester I have deleted his attribution). > >You don't need the SDK. Although since you can interface to SDK tools, you >might want it later. The new Borland product might be a cheaper (and maybe better) alternative. Also, many other language publishers are working on Windows products. > > >Their manuals are always production quality (in my experience) They are pretty good, but I wish they'd use en-dashes in their source code examples. > > >. Support for DDE between applications in Windows is excellent. Indeed, when I saw it, they were using a Smalltalk-to-Word link that let them use Word in place of the Smalltalk System Transcript. Supposedly, one can replace WordBasic with Smalltalk as a Word macro language! >Window paradigm is much better than 286 MPD. When I asked about compatibility with V/286 and V/Mac, they said the one problem would be that they'ved abandoned the MPD paradigm for a Windows/PM paradigm. Fine with me: I never could master the MPD approach to user interfacing. -- ergo@netcom.com Isaac Rabinovitch netcom!ergo@apple.com Silicon Valley, CA {apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!ergo (specific statement withheld at this time for operational reasons)