[comp.lang.lisp] Looking for a good Macintosh Lisp

masticol@styx.rutgers.edu (Steve Masticola) (03/15/88)

Thanks to those who answered my Prolog question. I'm also looking for
a good Lisp for the Macintosh (Common Lisp, hopefully), with good
execution time and a well-thought-out debugger.

If you've had _bad_ experiences with any Mac Lisp, I'd appreciate
hearing that, too. Please mail me and I'll post the results if there's
enough interest.

Thanks for your time!

- Steve Masticola
  (masticol@paul.rutgers.edu)

striepe@Apple.COM (Harold Striepe) (03/17/88)

Although a number of Lisps are available for the Macintosh (including XLISP
V2.0), the only fll Common Lisp implementation is Allegro CL by Coral/Franz.
At $600 it is a bargain supporting an integrated interpreter/compiler, editor,
debugger, and full Macintosh toolbox access. It will run on a MacPlus, but
serious work requires at least 2mb memory (more is better...). On a MacintoshII
features and performance compete favorably with a Vaxstation II running VAX Lisp(unless you need more than 8mb of memory).

Harald Striepe
Business Development Manager, Artificial Intelligence
Apple Computer, Inc.

email: striepe@APPLE.COM       AppleLink: STRIEPE2

chrstnsn@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (03/19/88)

I am in agreement with the previous response on Allegro CL for the Mac.
With 2 megabytes of memory (the minimum I would recommend on a Mac II)
it runs most of the usual benchmarks at about 50% or so of a SUN-3/160.
It is hightly compatible with the SUN version for non-Mac specific
stuff and is very easy to use with a nice set of windows on the Mac.

Steve Christensen
NCSA, Illinois
steve@spock.ncsa.uiuc.edu

marsh@mitre-bedford.ARPA (Ralph J. Marshall) (03/24/88)

In article <49800003@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> chrstnsn@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>
>I am in agreement with the previous response on Allegro CL for the Mac.
>With 2 megabytes of memory (the minimum I would recommend on a Mac II)
>it runs most of the usual benchmarks at about 50% or so of a SUN-3/160.
>It is hightly compatible with the SUN version for non-Mac specific
>stuff and is very easy to use with a nice set of windows on the Mac.
>
>Steve Christensen
>NCSA, Illinois
>steve@spock.ncsa.uiuc.edu

	We are just beginning to use Allegro on Mac IIs, and I'm trying
to find somebody who has any experience building large systems with it.
I'm particularly interested in any gaps you may have found in the development
environment, and how much of a problem the lack of virtual memory
may be (we have ordered 8 Megs for each of our machines).

	Thanks in advance for advice.