steve@nih-csl.UUCP (steve fellini) (12/02/88)
I'm new to the lisp world, and in some early reading I've done, have encountered references to operating systems written in lisp (in particular, for "the lisp machine"/Symbolics 3600/LMI, etc). This sounds neat. Can anyone point me to references which detail operating systems written in lisp? -- -- Steven Fellini, Nat'l Insts Health 12B/2N207 Bethesda Md 20892, 301-496-4823 Internet: steve@alw.nih.gov uucp: uunet!nih-csl!steve
sbrunnoc@hawk.ulowell.edu (Sean Brunnock) (12/05/88)
From article <842@nih-csl.UUCP>, by steve@nih-csl.UUCP (steve fellini): The bible of LISP Machines is the LISP Machine Manual also known as the Chine Nual owing to the fact that the title wraps around the cover so only those letters show. The original manual was written by Daniel Weinreb and David Moon who work at Symbolics I believe. Gigamos has a larger edition of the manual. It has the same title (and subtitle) and in addition to Weinreb and Moon, Richard M. Stallman is one of the authors. The LISP Machines that I know of are the Symbolics LM2 Symbolics 36** Symbolics MacIvory LMI (now Gigamos) Lambda Texas Instruments Explorer I, II, and MicroExplorer Sean Brunnock
welch@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arun Welch) (12/05/88)
In article <10475@swan.ulowell.edu>, sbrunnoc@hawk.ulowell.edu (Sean Brunnock) writes: > From article <842@nih-csl.UUCP>, by steve@nih-csl.UUCP (steve fellini): > > The LISP Machines that I know of are the > > Symbolics LM2 > Symbolics 36** > Symbolics MacIvory > LMI (now Gigamos) Lambda > Texas Instruments Explorer I, II, and MicroExplorer You're missing a bunch: Xerox 1100 (alto) Xerox 1132 (dorado) Xerox 1108/9 (dandelion/dandetiger) Xerox 1185/6 (dove/daybreak) IIM and a variety of experimental, research machines. > The bible of LISP Machines is the LISP Machine Manual also known as > the Chine Nual owing to the fact that the title wraps around the cover > so only those letters show. > The Chine Nual is only really a bible of the MIT-flavor lispms, and the TI's are wandering off that mark quite a bit as the years go on. ...arun ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arun Welch Lisp Systems Programmer, Lab for AI Research, Ohio State University welch@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
welch@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arun Welch) (12/06/88)
While waiting for my system to reload, I decided to look through my papers and dug up the following paper that you might find interesting: Computer Architectures for Artificial Intelligence Processing Kai Hwang, Joydeep Ghosh, and Raymod Chowkwanyun IEEE Computer, January 1987 That issue was a special issue on AI, if I remember right. The paper lists: Spur Symbolics 3600 series LMI Lambda ALPHA Xerox 1100 series Tektronix 4400 series (*) TI Explorer (*) Was this really a true lispm? I remember Tek offering us a machine, but it was a Smalltalk machine, and I don't remember any talk of Lisp for it. If you're interested in more detail, you can also look at The Architecture of Lisp Machines Andrew R. Pleszkun & Matthew J. Thazhuthaveetil IEEE Computer, March 1987 or Symbolics Architecture David Moon IEEE Computer, Jan 87 All three of those papers have fairly substantial bibliographies, if you're interested in delving further into the arcana.. ...arun ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arun Welch Lisp Systems Programmer, Lab for AI Research, Ohio State University welch@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
mac3n@babbage.acc.virginia.edu (Alex Colvin) (12/06/88)
Lisp operating systems have this in common with Smalltalk operating systems. "The operating system does those things that can't be done by the programmer. There shouldn't be one." -- A. Kay, I think. What you see instead is a bunch of packages with hooks (sounds painful!).