umbra@blake.acs.washington.edu (Walter Parker) (03/03/89)
Does anyboy know where I can get the source to a lisp interpreter
done in either C or pascal in the public domain (or real cheap.)
This is for my apple //gs, so a copy with as little OS dependances would be
nice.
Walter Parker
umbra@blake.acs.washington.edu Walter Parker
umbra@max.acs.washington.edu Mailstop FR-35
UMBRA@MAX University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) (03/06/89)
One of the most disappointing areas in the Apple II world is its minimal software development environment. For the whole Apple II line, only 1 C compiler and a number of assembers are available - well, I dont know if Pecan Systems is selling for the non-apple IIgs arena, but if so, that company may provide a few other languages. On the other hand, looking at the Amiga/Atari/Mac/IBM PC arena there are dozens, if not hundreds, of programming languages to chose from, including smalltalk, lisp, actor, etc. Perhaps someone with more ambition than brains <that is a joke folks> would like to take a crack at porting xlisp (should be available from a ftp site near you - the only place I could guess would be uunet) from ms-dos to prodos? -- Larry W. Virden 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068 (614) 864-8817 75046,606 (CIS) ; LVirden (ALPE) ; osu-cis!n8emr!lwv (UUCP) osu-cis!n8emr!lwv@TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (INTERNET) The world's not inherited from our parents, but borrowed from our children.
rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt) (03/10/89)
In article <850@n8emr.UUCP> lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) writes: | | One of the most disappointing areas in the Apple II world is its minimal | software development environment. For the whole Apple II line, only 1 C | compiler and a number of assembers are available - well, I dont know if | Pecan Systems is selling for the non-apple IIgs arena, but if so, that company | may provide a few other languages. I thought they (Pecan) were selling languages for Apple IIe/IIc's, and CP/M. | On the other hand, looking at the Amiga/Atari/Mac/IBM PC arena there | are dozens, if not hundreds, of programming languages to chose from, | including smalltalk, lisp, actor, etc. I agree - Apple II development is pitiful. But there are SOME notable exceptions: Kyan Pascal and ZBASIC to name two. | Perhaps someone with more ambition than brains <that is a joke folks> would | like to take a crack at porting xlisp (should be available from a ftp site | near you - the only place I could guess would be uunet) from ms-dos to prodos? XLISP should also be available from SIMTEL20 in its MSDOS archives. Why doesn't someone try to port Small-C to Prodos? I've thought about it once or twice myself, but you know how those large programming projects tend to grow on you. [david] -- ======== David Douthitt :::: Madison, WI :::: The Stainless Steel Rat ======== FidoNet: 1:121/2 ::::: WittiNet: "Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice." :::::: UseNet: ...{rutgers|ucbvax|harvard}!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!rat ArpaNet: madnix!rat@cs.wisc.edu {decvax|att}!
lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) (03/11/89)
In article <539@madnix.UUCP> rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:
-->
-->I agree - Apple II development is pitiful. But there are SOME notable
-->exceptions: Kyan Pascal and ZBASIC to name two.
-->
The problem is that Kyan for instance is out of business! And Zbasic isnt
doing so hot as far as I have been able to find out.
-->
-->XLISP should also be available from SIMTEL20 in its MSDOS archives. Why
-->doesn't someone try to port Small-C to Prodos? I've thought about it once
-->or twice myself, but you know how those large programming projects tend
-->to grow on you.
-->
There have been a couple of folks who have mentioned in the past doing
a port of Small C. The one done by Byteworks generates p code. I have
heard in either Dr Dobbs or The C User's Journal that someone else was working
on a port which generated 6502 family assember, but have never been able to
locate a source.
--
Larry W. Virden 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068 (614) 864-8817
75046,606 (CIS) ; LVirden (ALPE) ; osu-cis!n8emr!lwv (UUCP)
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The world's not inherited from our parents, but borrowed from our children.brianw@microsoft.UUCP (Brian Willoughby) (03/16/89)
In article <539@madnix.UUCP>, rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes: > In article <850@n8emr.UUCP> lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) writes: > | > | One of the most disappointing areas in the Apple II world is its minimal > | software development environment. For the whole Apple II line, only 1 C > | compiler and a number of assembers are available - well, I dont know if > > XLISP should also be available from SIMTEL20 in its MSDOS archives. Why > doesn't someone try to port Small-C to Prodos? I've thought about it once > or twice myself, but you know how those large programming projects tend > to grow on you. > > [david] Small-C has been available for some time in the ProDOS -based ORCA/M package. In fact, I purchased an older version of it at a discount. If you have ORCA/M then look in the APDAlog for the ORCA Small-C product. What we really need is a FULL C that runs on all 64K ProDOS capable Apples (or clones) and supports 6502, 65C02, 65C802 and 65C816 output. I previously made a posting asking for interest in the area because I have an Apple II+ with the WDC65C802 installed. There was some response, "but you know how those large programming projects tend to grow on you" to quote. I'll keep working, but a solution from a large company with better support would be welcome... Brian Willoughby microsoft!brianw@uunet.UU.NET or uw-beaver!microsoft!brianw or just microsoft!brianw