[net.movies] Question about SUPERMAN II

ph@wucec2.UUCP (03/08/86)

	    A friend and I have differing interpretations of the ending
	of SUPERMAN II, specifically the scene in which he kisses Lois,
	whereupon she swoons momentarily.  Now, I never thought that he
	was doing anything then other than to say look, it's all right,
	just take it easy, I love you.  On the other hand, my friend
	thought he was removing the memories of what had happened
	between them, since they were causing her such anguish.
	Obviously this makes a rather large difference as to the tone of
	the scene.  Now, am I being unusually dense?  Do most of you out
	there see it the way my friend does?
	    Perhaps part of the reason I am so reluctant to read it that
	way is because it requires postulating another power that Supes
	posesses ad hoc, of which enough had been done in that movie
	already--the giant evaporating Saran Wrap 'S', the force beams,
	the teleportation, etc. ad nauseam.
	    On a totally unrelated topic: I recently saw a movie on TV
	of which I missed the beginning credits and was wondering if
	Jayembee or anyone else could supply me with the title.  I can
	supply a fair amount of information that I got from the end
	credits.  It was made in the early seventies by people in
	several European countries (France, Spain, and Italy, I think).
	It presented an interesting look at the legendary Amazons, in
	view of when it was made.  The main protagonists were Antiope,
	Queen of the Amazons, and Theseus.  Final scene ends something
	like this:

	    THESEUS: Ah, there's Phaedra.
	    ANTIOPE (dangerously): And WHO is Phaedra?
	    THESEUS: Er--my wife.
	    ANTIOPE: Oh, is THAT all?  I thought she was your lover!
	    [Title: AND SO ANTIOPE AND THESEUS RODE OFF TO LIVE HAPPILY
		EVER AFTER . . .]
	    [Title: . . . AND IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, YOU'LL BELIEVE
		ANYTHING.]

	    In keeping with nettiquette, please MAIL all replies (about
	this movie, that is, not SUPERMAN II) to me and I'll post the
	consensus if there is a demand.  Thanks.
						--pH
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ma3166ay@unmc.UUCP (L.A. Electronics) (03/10/86)

In article <> ph@wucec2.UUCP (Paul Hahn) writes:
>
>	    A friend and I have differing interpretations of the ending
>	of SUPERMAN II, specifically the scene in which he kisses Lois,
>	whereupon she swoons momentarily.  Now, I never thought that he
>	was doing anything then other than to say look, it's all right,
>	just take it easy, I love you.  On the other hand, my friend
>	thought he was removing the memories of what had happened
>	between them, since they were causing her such anguish.
>                   . . .
>
>	    Perhaps part of the reason I am so reluctant to read it that
>	way is because it requires postulating another power that Supes
>	posesses ad hoc, of which enough had been done in that movie
>	already--the giant evaporating Saran Wrap 'S', the force beams,
>	the teleportation, etc. ad nauseam.
>						--pH

I must admit that your interpretation of the ending never occured to me.  Look
at the was Lois acts towards Clark after she recovers from her swoon . . . she
treats him just like she did BEFORE she found out he was Supes.  Her ignorance
of "what's been happening in the world" kind of clinches that, using some
strange, mystic, Kryptonian power known only to him and the Salkinds, Supes
wiped her memory of the previous few days' events.

Oh well, nobody ever said the things were going to fit into the comic-books'
continuity.  Good movie anyway, in my opinion.

.rne.

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mdr@bentley.UUCP (M. Rossner) (03/10/86)

Superman was clearly erasing from Lois's mind the memory of anything
that went on between the hijacking of the Eiffel tower and the end
of the movie.  Notice how Lois says "what's going on in the world?"
Yes, this is one of superman's unexpected, new (i.e. just to help
the plot along) superpowers, as was his ability to turn time back
at the end of S. One.  (Why, I only need cirle the earth opposite
its spin at super-fast speeds and time will just naturally turn
back, we all know that!)

                        Marc D. Rossner
                        Bell Labs, Liberty Corner, NJ

"They've taken the Eiffel Tower, chief? Gosh, that's terrible!"
"That's why they call them terrorists, Kent"
                                 ^^^^