[comp.lang.lisp] Is there a cheap, decent PCLisp Out There?

efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) (10/16/90)

The subject line says it all-I need a (preferably)CommonLisp that will run 
on a PC. This is mostly for self-teaching of LISP at home, and need not be 
exotic. It does need to be MUCH cheaper than the $1995.00 gouge that Gold Hill
is getting for their LISP. I realize this has probably come up before, but...
=Eric
.

boyer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Charles David Boyer) (10/16/90)

efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) writes:

>The subject line says it all-I need a (preferably)CommonLisp that will run 
>on a PC. This is mostly for self-teaching of LISP at home, and need not be 
>exotic. It does need to be MUCH cheaper than the $1995.00 gouge that Gold Hill
>is getting for their LISP. I realize this has probably come up before, but...
>=Eric
>.

You might consider Scheme, a dialect of Lisp.  PC-Scheme from Texas 
Instruments is a solid implementation running under DOS. I think Students
here at IU buy it for $30 or $40 with a manual but I think that is under 
an educational site license. I am not sure who to call or write
but there is a customer response address in my manual:

	Texas Instruments Inc.
	Data Systems Group
	ATTN: PC Sustaining
	P.O. Box 2909 M/S 2234
	Austin, Texas 78769-9990

Dave Boyer
boyer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

lgm@cbnewsc.att.com (lawrence.g.mayka) (10/18/90)

In article <9281@milton.u.washington.edu>, efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) writes:
> The subject line says it all-I need a (preferably)CommonLisp that will run 
> on a PC. This is mostly for self-teaching of LISP at home, and need not be 
> exotic. It does need to be MUCH cheaper than the $1995.00 gouge that Gold Hill
> is getting for their LISP. I realize this has probably come up before, but...

The last I heard, Gold Hill is still selling their Golden Common Lisp
Student Edition for under $100.  GCL/SE includes as much of Common
Lisp as will fit in 640 Kbytes of RAM.  It includes an editor, an
on-line tutorial, and even a junior version of the Common Lisp Object
System (CLOS).


	Lawrence G. Mayka
	AT&T Bell Laboratories
	lgm@iexist.att.com

Standard disclaimer.

kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) (10/19/90)

In <1990Oct17.224606.26480@cbnewsc.att.com> lgm@cbnewsc.att.com (lawrence.g.mayka) writes:

>In article <9281@milton.u.washington.edu>, efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) writes:
>> The subject line says it all-I need a (preferably)CommonLisp that will run 
>> on a PC. This is mostly for self-teaching of LISP at home, and need not be 
>> exotic. It does need to be MUCH cheaper than the $1995.00 gouge that Gold Hill
>> is getting for their LISP. I realize this has probably come up before, but...

>The last I heard, Gold Hill is still selling their Golden Common Lisp
>Student Edition for under $100.  GCL/SE includes as much of Common
>Lisp as will fit in 640 Kbytes of RAM.  It includes an editor, an
>on-line tutorial, and even a junior version of the Common Lisp Object
>System (CLOS).


>	Lawrence G. Mayka
>	AT&T Bell Laboratories
>	lgm@iexist.att.com

>Standard disclaimer.

Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: Is there a cheap, decent PCLisp Out There?
Keywords: lisp, pc, ms, dos
References: <CCM.90Oct15153120@DARWIN.CRITTERS.CS.CMU.EDU> <9281@milton.u.washington.edu> <1990Oct17.224606.26480@cbnewsc.att.com>

>In article <9281@milton.u.washington.edu>, efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) writes:
>> The subject line says it all-I need a (preferably)CommonLisp that will run 
>> on a PC. This is mostly for self-teaching of LISP at home, and need not be 
>> exotic. It does need to be MUCH cheaper than the $1995.00 gouge that Gold Hill
>> is getting for their LISP. I realize this has probably come up before, but...


Ibuki is working on a port to Microsoft Windows. At the time I talked
to their representative, he didn't know what their pricing would be.

I just hope that they don't "do a Gold Hill" and price themselves out
of the market. Borland and Microsoft have become rich selling C, BASIC,
and Pascal compilers for $100. Anyone who offers full Common Lisp at
in the price range will sell thousands and thousands of units.

--
Carl Kadie  --- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
 === Today the NEA and alt.sex, tomorrow our public libraries ===

shack@cs.arizona.edu (David Michael Shackelford) (10/20/90)

In article <9281@milton.u.washington.edu>, efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) writes:
> The subject line says it all-I need a (preferably)CommonLisp that will run 
> on a PC. This is mostly for self-teaching of LISP at home, and need not be 
> exotic. It does need to be MUCH cheaper than the $1995.00 gouge that Gold Hill
> is getting for their LISP. I realize this has probably come up before, but...

How about XLISP?  I think it's available on SIMTEL (maybe in its own directory)
It's not necessarily 100% CommonLisp, but you can't beat the price anywhere!

It should do the job, our programming languages class uses
an XLISP dialect for the LISP section of the course.

Dave.   | shack@cs.arizona.edu

toma@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) (10/20/90)

In article <463@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> shack@cs.arizona.edu (David Michael Shackelford) writes:
>In article <9281@milton.u.washington.edu>, efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) writes:
>> The subject line says it all-I need a (preferably)CommonLisp that will run 
>> on a PC. This is mostly for self-teaching of LISP at home, and need not be 
>> exotic.

>How about XLISP?  I think it's available on SIMTEL (maybe in its own directory)
>It's not necessarily 100% CommonLisp, but you can't beat the price anywhere!
>
>It should do the job, our programming languages class uses
>an XLISP dialect for the LISP section of the course.

I have an extensively modified XLISP 2.1 which has been molded more into
CL and fixes numerous bugs in the standard XLISP distribution. The extension
over the standard XLISP are obtained via compilation options.

Send a self-addressed, stamped mailer with a formatted high density floppy
to:

Tom Almy
17830 SW Shasta Trail
Tualatin, OR 97062

Atatch a note saying:
1. You want XLISP sources.
2. Any binaries you need (generic w/wo 80x87 and 80386 protected mode w. 80387
	available).
3. Documentation as PostScript file, ASCII text file, or WordPerfect 5.1 file.

Tom Almy
toma@tekgvs.labs.tek.com
Standard Disclaimers Apply