day@grand.UUCP (Dave Yost) (01/11/88)
I thought the following would be of great interest to C++ people: From: eric@hdr.UUCP (Eric J. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Jerry Pournelle on UNIX (from BYTE) Message-ID: <170@hdr.UUCP> Date: 6 Jan 88 21:44:58 GMT References: <11129@brl-adm.ARPA> Reply-To: eric@hdr.UUCP (Eric J. Johnson) Organization: HDR Systems, Inc. ... a Unix rewrite is already in the works. This was mentioned by Bill Joy at the December Sun Users Group Convention in San Jose. The new 'enhanced' version of System V will be rewritten from scratch in C++. The slide he showed had all the major flavors of Unix being merged back into one product. ... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Eric J. Johnson UUCP: eric@hdr.UUCP CIS: 72460,11 BIX: ericj -- -- HDR Systems, Inc. Other UUCP paths: codas!hdr!eric ugn!eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
leech@hayes.cs.unc.edu (Jonathan Leech) (01/11/88)
Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: In article <398@grand.UUCP> day@grand.UUCP (Dave Yost) writes: >The new 'enhanced' version of System V will be rewritten from scratch >in C++. Presumably C++ will become a standard, supported part of the Sun OS / SVR3 / Xenix merge, then? Yay, if so. Jon Leech (leech@cs.unc.edu) __@/ ``After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself as to see all the other fellows busy working.'' - Kenneth Grahame, _The Wind in the Willows_
crovella@sunybcs.uucp (Mark Crovella) (01/12/88)
In article <398@grand.UUCP> day@grand.UUCP (Dave Yost) writes: >I thought the following would be of great interest to C++ people: > >From: eric@hdr.UUCP (Eric J. Johnson) > >... a Unix rewrite is already in the works. This was mentioned >by Bill Joy at the December Sun Users Group Convention in San Jose. >The new 'enhanced' version of System V will be rewritten from scratch >in C++. The slide he showed had all the major flavors of Unix being >merged back into one product. ... I believe this relates to a joint effort among Sun, AT&T, and Microsoft to create something called UNIX-TM. According to the local Sun rep., this will be a merger of BSD, XENIX, and SysV (!) and will have a binary specification similar to the SVID. It is supposed to be out by late 1989. And it _will_ be written in c++! Mark Crovella "Reflect, ponder, excogitate, reply." - J.Joyce uucp: ..!{ames,boulder,decvax,rutgers}!sunybcs!crovella internet: crovella@cs.buffalo.edu bitnet: crovella@sunybcs.bitnet
greg@cstowe.csoft.co.nz (Greg) (01/28/88)
In article <1387@winchester.mips.COM> mash@winchester.UUCP (John Mashey) writes: >In article <398@grand.UUCP> day@grand.UUCP (Dave Yost) writes: >>... a Unix rewrite is already in the works. > >According to the various things published, AT&T are merging SVR3 >and 4.3BSD (really SunOS) together (not exactly unlike a number of >UNIXes on the market, like HP/UX, etc) for late 1989. If the people involved are on the net, could they possibly setup a suggestion postbox somewhere, perhaps with a periodic journal of responses, so that we, the users / gurus / whatever can have some input, drop a few suggestions, etc. Everyone must have some things about Unix they would like to see fixed or changed. Admittedly, it will probably generate a lot of mail, but we are the people who make it all happen, who sell, install, praise, program in, hack, whatever. Greg Calkin Commercial Software N.Z. Limited, ...!uunet!vuwcomp!dsiramd!pnamd!cstowe!greg PO Box 4030 Palmerston North, or greg@csoft.co.nz New Zealand. Phone (063)-65955 Disclaimer : This will probably be ignored anyway ! Most things I say are. Back to cyberspace !
henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (02/07/88)
> If the people involved are on the net, could they possibly setup a suggestion > postbox somewhere... I doubt very much that they would be willing to do any such thing. Have you any idea how much mail they would get? A friend on X3J11 estimated that *they* got over 1000 proposals for new features to be added to C. That's written proposals, never mind all the network chatter about it. Merely reading and responding intelligently to that kind of flood involves quite significant manpower and expense. Especially since many of the proposals, in my experience with such things, are thoroughly dumb ideas. Being realistic, given that it's AT&T and Sun who are doing this, and given that they're talking about the union of System V and 4.nBSD, they undoubtedly already have an abundance of dumb ideas of their own. (Taking the union, rather than the intersection, of the two systems being the first one.) -- Those who do not understand Unix are | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology condemned to reinvent it, poorly. | {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,utai}!utzoo!henry