hansen@pegasus.UUCP (Tony L. Hansen) (01/22/88)
I spoke with Guidelines Software this afternoon and found out that they just began shipping version 1.2 of the C++ compiler for MS-DOS machines. For those of you with their 1.1 version, the upgrade cost is US$25, plus shipping. I think that their price is still US$195 and it sits on top of MicroSoft C 4.0. I've had Guidelines C++ 1.1 for some time now and am reasonably pleased with it. I tossed out their batch scripts and replaced them with a CC shell script (I also have the MKS Toolkit). I also had to make a couple of minor adjustments to a couple of the MicroSoft headers to match the Guidelines headers. The cfront compiler itself works quite well. Tony Hansen ihnp4!pegasus!hansen, attmail!tony
hansen@pegasus.UUCP (Tony L. Hansen) (02/18/88)
I've been asked a few questions about my earlier posting about version 1.2 of C++ being available from Guidelines. I just received my upgrade copy, so can answer a few of them. (> is my previous note, < is a reply) > I spoke with Guidelines Software this afternoon and found out that they just > began shipping version 1.2 of the C++ compiler for MS-DOS machines. < What's the difference between C++ 1.1 and 1.2? In a nutshell: 1) bug fixes 2) suffixes for unsigned constants 3) function overloading is sensitive to unsigned arguments 4) global anonymous unions 5) support for Microsoft 3.0 and 5.0 > For those of you with their 1.1 version, the upgrade cost is US$25, plus > shipping. I think that their price is still US$195 and it sits on top of > MicroSoft C 4.0. < Will it work with MSC 5.0 too? Microsoft has stopped selling the 4.0 < version now. < By the way, I have Microsoft C 5.0, not 4.0. I would hope the newest < Guidelines C++ will generate code for 5.0. As noted above in 5), Guidelines C++ now provides support for Microsoft 5.0, as well as Microsoft 3.0. > I've had Guidelines C++ 1.1 for some time now and am reasonably pleased > with it. I tossed out their batch scripts and replaced them with a CC > shell script (I also have the MKS Toolkit). I also had to make a couple of > minor adjustments to a couple of the MicroSoft headers to match the > Guidelines headers. The cfront compiler itself works quite well. < also, what does 'reasonably pleased' mean? what are its problem areas? < Ah, a fellow MKS user, with Korn shell and all! Also, if you had any < quirks when you began to use it, I would appreciate your passing along < hints about them. I've occasionally had cfront run out of memory on large programs. There is a note In this release saying that cfront is ram intensive and that you might have to remove TSR programs or split up large files. Also, as noted above, I chucked the .bat files which came with it and replaced them with a ksh script. The batch scripts all work well if you only have a few C++ files to compile together; there isn't anything comparable to Micro-Soft's cl command which will do the whole works of pre-process, compile, assemble and link. < Is Guidelines C++ the same that Oasys sells (ie, the one from Glockenspiel < of Dublin, Ireland)? No, I think that this is a totally separate port done by Guidelines themselves. Note that both the Guidelines and Oasys/Glockenspiel ports are based on the AT&T cfront compiler. But other than that, the two are unrelated. One side note, Guidelines uses the .cpp extension for C++ files, while Glockenspiel uses the .cxx extension. < also, what kind of debugging support does guidelines software provide??? < can i debug c++ code w/ codeview, or do i have to debug the post-process < code??? I'm afraid you're stuck with codeview on the post-cfront code. < how can i contact guidelines software? Could you please send me at least < the city and telephone number of Guidelines Software? Here is the information I have: Guidelines Softweare, Inc. P.O. box 749 Orinda, CA 94563 USA 1-800-634-7779 or 1-415-254-9393 I hope that someone finds this information useful. Tony Hansen ihnp4!pegasus!hansen, attmail!tony
bc@halley.UUCP (Bill Crews) (02/21/88)
In article <3090@pegasus.UUCP> hansen@pegasus.UUCP (XMPE40000-Tony L. Hansen;LZ 3B-315;6243) writes: >> For those of you with their 1.1 version, the upgrade cost is US$25, plus >> shipping. I think that their price is still US$195 and it sits on top of >> MicroSoft C 4.0. I am afraid their price has just jumped to $295 for 1.2. That really disappointed me, as I am learning C++ on my own and must pay for everything out of my taco money. As I am on a diet, maybe I'll save enough taco money to get 1.2 next month . . . or the next. :-( -bc -- Bill Crews Tandem Computers bc@halley.UUCP Austin, Texas ..!rutgers!im4u!halley!bc (512) 244-8350
craig@srs.UUCP (Craig Schmackpfeffer) (02/25/88)
I purchased Guidelines 1.1 and have been impressed by their support
(although I asked for little). I could barely believe it when I
went home and found that they CALLED me to let me know there was a
new version out.
Their documentation in version 1.1 left something to be desired, but
I understand they have all new (good) documentation with the latest
version.
Has anyone heard when Apple plans to release its new C++ compiler for
the Macintosh?
Craig
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