alex@CCA-UNIX@sri-unix (12/08/82)
To me it is interesting that Vader told Luke to release his anger, "Only your hatred (anger?) can destroy me." This is of course the opposite of what Yoda and Obi-wan have said ("Mind what you have learned -- save you it can"). When Luke started getting emotional was when he started losing control of the Force -- here we see that the Dark side is controlled by strong negative emotions, whereas the good side is almost a Zen-like trance. Is it possible that Vader's disclosure that he was Luke's father was what helped Luke in the end? Recall that at that time Luke was beaten and injured, and hanging on for his life at the end of the ... thing. Luke did not accept the implication of Vader's disclosure, however, and looked down and allowed himself to fall. The way it looked to me, he had regained some calm and control when he did that. Later on the Falcon, when Vader mind-speaks to him, his reaction is not to Vader -- he hears Vader but does not respond, either negatively or positively to Vader. Instead, he wonders why Ben didn't tell him. Clearly he accepts the fact that Vader is his father at that point. But he does not accept any implications of that fact. NOW FOR A SPOILER. At ChiCon, some of the information we gleaned from the LucasFilm people (who, me? I was sitting in the fourth row....) indicated that there will be only two planetfalls (Dagobah and Tatooine), and that no new major characters were being introduced. Also, all loose ends will be tied up. Some of this is inferred, some is from statements made by the LucasFilm rep. (I can't remember if it was Gary Kurtz or someone else.) Alexis Layton alex@CCA-UNIX decvax!cca!alex P.S. Would someone who was there please mail me? I want to check my memory on something.
heliotis (12/09/82)
I disagree with some of Alexis Layton's opinions. (1) When Luke decided to jump off the ... thing, I think he felt that Vader was getting the best of him, and if he didn't get away from that guy soon, he would be sucked into the dark side of the force; if he had regained his composure, perhaps he would not have had to jump (althought perhaps Vader would have killed him). Also, I think that Luke often cried out Ben's name to keep from thinking about "Poppa Darth", and again, being sucked into the dark side. (Oops! I should have said "(2)" there!) Jim@Ra-cha-cha