mcdaniel (12/08/82)
#N:uiucdcs:12500008:000:306 uiucdcs!mcdaniel Dec 8 09:20:00 1982 What made Luke's performance in the cave a failure? (When he's running off to save Han &c, Yoda says something like "remember your failure in the cave".) Also, why didn't he need his weaponry? Tim McDaniel (. . . pur-ee!uiucdcs!mcdaniel)
ark (12/09/82)
Gee, wasn't it in the cave where Luke lost his concentration to anger early on and everything came crashing down?
mjl (12/12/82)
In the cave on Degobah (sp?), Luke was facing his own "dark side" and potential to be corrupted, as Vader was. Note that he reacted in anger, and HE drew his weapon first, not the shadow-Vader. Luke also took the first swing -- he didn't need his weapons because the Jedi doesn't react by attacking -- he was SUPPOSED to be passive in facing the situation. (Remember, the real Vader later tells Luke "Release your anger. Only your hatred can destory me." Of course, this is exactly the opposite of the truth, and Vader is just trying to make Luke that much more susceptible to the Dark Side, so that he can be 'turned' for the Emperor.) One nice note -- when the mask explodes, we see Luke's face inside. This seems to me like a nice metaphor for (1) Luke's potential for corruption, an and (2) the fact that Vader really IS Luke's father (well, a clone thereof), who was similarly corrupted. Like father, like son, is the implied message. Matt Landau ...mhuxi!wjh12!mjl ...linus!wjh12!mjl ...genradbolton!wjh12!mjl