[comp.lang.c++] Suggestions on Zortech C++ purchase?

SLORES@umiami.miami.edu (Stanislaw L. Olejniczak) (12/05/89)

I am about to purchase Zortech C++, and I would appreciate suggestions on
WHAT should I buy.  Specifically, should I buy the Developer's Edition?

I know I am interested in the compiler and the debugger, but I would
appreciate comments whether the tools and library source are worth
getting.

My purpose for buying this system is more to LEARN C++ than to use it for
new and grand projects - though it may come to that.  I thought the
library source could be useful to learn a trick or two.

Also, if you have delt with a _realible_ dealer (mail OK) who carries
Zortech, do let me know, please.

Thanks in advance.
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chip@ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg) (12/08/89)

According to SLORES@umiami.miami.edu (Stanislaw L. Olejniczak):
>I am about to purchase Zortech C++, and I would appreciate suggestions on
>WHAT should I buy.  Specifically, should I buy the Developer's Edition?
>
>I know I am interested in the compiler and the debugger, but I would
>appreciate comments whether the tools and library source are worth
>getting.

I got the library source with Zortech 1.07 and I'm very glad I did.
Sometimes you need a feature added to a library routine, and there's just no
substitute for having source.

Specifically, the disp_peekbox() function was much slower than disp_pokebox()
for the same area of the same screen.  Turns out that disp_pokebox() has an
optimization for snow-free screens, and disp_peekbox() doesn't.  Or at least
it didn't have it, until I added it.  See what I mean?
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tek@scotty.Atlanta.NCR.COM (Tom Klempay) (12/10/89)

<<In article 3071, slores@umiami.miami.edu writes>>
> I am about to purchase Zortech C++, and I would appreciate suggestions on
> WHAT should I buy.  Specifically, should I buy the Developer's Edition?

Zortech sent me an order form that is valid until Dec. 31st, and on it, the
Developer's Edition was $450 (which includes compiler, debugger, toolkit,
and library source).  If you just want to learn C++, I would suggest the
compiler, debugger, and toolkit.  The debugger is very easy to use and will
help tremendously (you won't have to use cout as your main debugging tool
:-).  The toolkit gives you source code and shows code examples in its 
manual.  That will probably help you to see real-life C++ examples.  As
for the library source, if you're just learning, you probably won't need to do
much dinking around with it.  Of course, if you bought the compiler,
debugger, and toolkit separately, it would cost you $500 (as listed on
their pricing sheet), so you're better off buying the Developer's Edition
for $450 (of course, IMHO, charging only $450 for all that is a steal for 
a product so good). 

I've always bought directly from Zortech.  Their order number in the US is
(617)646-6703.  They've been pretty timely with my orders, too.

Tom Klempay                            
NCR E&M Atlanta                 
tek@atlanta.ncr.com