arlan (01/26/83)
After all of these amusing conjectures about the so-called "other", I feel it is time to reveal the obvious truth to all you sexist pigs. Were you all not sexist, you would have not been so culturally bound as to imagine Yoda said one thing, when he was actually saying another. The inescapable fact is, of course, that the speculation on "the other" is a misrepresentation of his statement. Yoda, of course, was talking about the female saviour to come: "No, there is ANNE NUTHER." So it was spoken, and so shall be done! --arlan andrews/american bell, inc./indianapolis
ech (01/29/83)
#N:whuxlb:9100011:000:1575 whuxlb!ech Jan 25 01:07:00 1983 Yet another 2 cents worth: "the other" is nobody you've ever heard of. From a practical point of view, "the other" gives Lucas tremendous plot leverage: he can kill off "Wimp" Skywalker anytime without blowing all hope for the good guys. Given that Lucas will reportedly lay off ST production for a few years, he's going to need that freedom. Within the ST mythos, it's nobody Obiwan has ever been close to, since his sensitivity to the force would have revealed "the other" as a good prospective recruit. Yoda, the perfect master, could presumably feel the existence of "the other" at the other end of the galaxy, perhaps even one yet unborn. On the other burning issue of TESB, I for one have no doubt that Darth is Luke's father: Luke is sensitive enough to the force that he "feels" the truth of the statement. The relationship may not be classical -- e.g. Luke may be Vader's clone -- but it's real. Watch Luke's reaction, after his rescue, when Vader "calls" to him: the response is immediate: "Father?" OK, now I'll go out on a limb and tie all this nonsense together: the last great battles were during the "clone wars," which occured during Obi's (and Vader's) lifetime. During that war Vader, a mighty Jedi, was captured and made a prisoner of war. His dastardly captors, in addition to giving him such a hard time that he turned toward the dark side of the force, also grew some duplicates from tissue samples. At the war's end, Vader was freed and, humanely, his clones -- Skywalker and "the other" -- were placed with foster parents. Flame on! =Ned=