[comp.lang.c++] Turbo C++ for windows

karlth@rhi.hi.is (Karl Thoroddsen) (02/21/91)

Will the new TC++ be an Windows application(a real windows program)
or will it only be able to compile Windows compatible programs and run
under Windows as a Non-Windows application?  

Thanks in advance
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Karl Thoroddsen             Computer Science           University of Iceland
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jim@shograf.COM (jim morris) (02/24/91)

From article <2817@krafla.rhi.hi.is>, by karlth@rhi.hi.is (Karl Thoroddsen):
> Will the new TC++ be an Windows application(a real windows program)
> or will it only be able to compile Windows compatible programs and run
> under Windows as a Non-Windows application?  

I just got my Borland C++...
It is almost the same as Turbo C++ professional. It comes with
Debugger, asm etc.
It runs under DOS, or in a windows DOS window.
The only application that I can find that runs under windows is
the Resource utility, (By Actor).

It does appear that you can compile windows programs and DLL's
without the SDK.

I haven't had it for long enough to give a review yet!!

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ebergman@isis.cs.du.edu (Eric Bergman-Terrell) (02/26/91)

How much disk space does it take up (I've heard 15M)?  It would be interesting
to know how much the compiler takes up, the assembler, profiler, etc...


Terrell

caspers@fwi.uva.nl (B.M. Caspers (I)) (02/27/91)

I've been using a beta version 1.9 of BC++ for a while, so I have some 
experience with it. It indeed takes up about 14 Mb of harddisk space, caused
by many versions of the compiler and the debugger. Of the compiler, the
following versions are available: TC, TCX (protected mode), TCC, and TCCX.
The debugger consists also of many files: TD, TDREMOTE, TD286, TD386, and
TDW (for Windows). Some of these programs take up to 0.5 Mb of disk space.

I have developed some Windows applications with BC++, and it works well. The
resulting programs are (of course) real Windows applications, and with the
WRT (Whitewater Resource Toolkit), creating resources is made very easy. 

The only problem is the enormous memory-hunger of the compiler. To use protected
mode, you must have at least 576 Kb of e-memory (extended, real or simulated
expanded) available. I use a fast 386 with 8 Mb of RAM, and the compiler
will compile a simple Windows application in about 15 seconds. I've heard from
a friend with a 286 computer with 1 Mb of (total) memory that the same program
took him 7 minutes to compile. Using the command-line version TCC or TCCX is
even faster than compiling from within the IDE.

Those who don't develop Windows applications or very large projects, should
better use Turbo C++, but for serious C++ programming jobs Borland C++ is
a great compiler.

John