perelgut (12/20/82)
Well, you people convinced me to go back and see episodes IV and V again. Some interesting things have been missed or mis-stated. 1) Darth Vader kills lots of people. He starts by picking up the commander of Leia's ship (the opening scenes) by the neck and shaking him until he is dead. Not particularly nice. He also kills lots of people by using the Force to strangle them. 2) OB-1 is definately called OB-1. It seems that the future has slurred the 1 to sound more like Wan, but the more cultured types (such as old Ben himself) speak clearly enough. 3) Nobody mentionned that Luke's uncle's name was Owen (O-1). Ben also says this fairly clearly at least twice. 4) When Ben says Vader murdered Luke's father, I got the feeling he was speaking in a metaphysical sense. Vader (the dark side) won out over Skywalker (the better side). Thus Vader "murdered" Luke's father. 5) There is some resemblence between the emperor and Ben but the credits list them as different actors. 6) Leia is a little slut who obviously wants Luke, Han, and Chewie. 7) Luke's light saber is very likely gone, although he could have used the Force to call it back to him. Here is some wild speculation. I am not at all convinced that Luke will be an all around good-guy for the next movie. Although it goes against shlock American film-making practices, Luke could very well become a baddie. I wouldn't be surprised to see Vader/Skywalker and Luke take on the Emperor and then take over the Galaxy. Perhaps Vader might even die in the encounter. But the "other" will win out in the end. One more thought before I go. Did anyone else notice that none of the good guys ever got hit by the laser blasts. At least not seriously. However, R2D2 stood in the line of fire more often without suffering any real damages. It (he?) only got caught a couple of time and usually it was "fortuitous happenstance" since it advanced R2D2 toward his current goals. R2D2 also circumvented every security system set up and talked freely with all other computers. If all R2 units had that capability the Galaxy would be controlled by 'droids, or unscrupulous 'droid owners. --- Stephen Perelgut ---
laura (12/20/82)
I went and saw SW4 and SW5 again too. LUCAS is UNFAIR to WOOKIES and WOMEN!! There are no female fighter-pilots, or Jedi, or officers of the Empire or even (as far as we know) storm troopers. The rebels had one female communications officer in TESB, though. In the triumphant procession at the end of SW Chewie, Han, and Luke march up in front of the rebel assembly ... but only Han and Luke receive medals. Drat! Is it against the Chewie's religion to wear anything besides that silver ammo-belt? (which may not even be an ammo belt?). Oh I forgot -- you get one shot of what is probably shoes on Chewie in TESB. I have finally discovered why I *much prefer* SW to TESB (contrary to popular opinion). In SW the characters are often impetuous and conceited, but in TESB, even with time to think they act *STUPIDLY*. Consider. Luke is in a cave with an abomknable snowman, miles and miles away from the base, and night is falling. What would you do? Start *walking* home? or kill the snow beast (or drive him away) with your light saber, and stay sheltered in the warm cave until morning? I know what *I* would do.... Han has survived a night outdoors on Hoth-moon. Now he wants to go out and check on the robot-droid-probe. Does he take a spacecraft which have now been fixed to work under cold conditions? As far as we know, he and Chewie walk -- though they may have taken Tauntauns. Why? Couldnt Chewie fit into a spacefighter? Are robot-droid-probes sensitive to electronic equipment? Doesnt Darth Vader know that you never put all your prisoners together so they can comfort each other, regain morale, and plan how to escape? He knew about solitary confinement in SW -- why has he forgotten in TESB? Questions: Luke draws his saber first every time he faces Vader, incl- uding in the cave. Anybody know whether Vader or OB1 draws first in their great battle? I forgot to look. How does R2D2 go down stairs? Why does Luke throw the food stick which he wont let Yoda eat into the swamp? What does the princess do her hair with after days of torture while in Solitary confinement? Laura Creighton decvax!utzoo!laura
fred.umcp-cs@UDel-Relay (01/01/83)
From: Fred Blonder <fred.umcp-cs@UDel-Relay> From: decvax!utzoo!laura at Ucb-C70 [Does] Chewie . . . wear anything besides that silver ammo-belt? (which may not even be an ammo belt?). ``Ammo'' doesn't make sense with blasters. I think it's his tool kit. That's how he was able to start reassembling C3P0 while he was still in his cell. Doesnt Darth Vader know that you never put all your prisoners together so they can comfort each other, regain morale, and plan how to escape? Lando may have had something to do with that. After all, at that point Vader hadn't yet made his final set of demands and may have still been giving Lando some leeway to give him the impression that he was still being allowed to run things. Anybody know whether Vader or OB1 draws first in their great battle? I distinctly remember a view of Vader standing in the hallway with his saber on, but held sideways, when Ben first sees him and before he draws his own saber. How does R2D2 go down stairs? KA-BUMP-BUMP-BONK-SPLAT. That's the easy part. The tough one is: how does he get back up them? In the radio play there's a reference to C3P0 lifting R2 out of the escape capsule after they land on Tatooine. Why does Luke throw the food stick which he wont let Yoda eat into the swamp? That, I thought, was a good touch. He doesn't want to eat it himself after this slimy (you'd be slimy too if you lived in a swamp) green creature has been pawing it, but he's too annoyed at said creature to let HIM have the food. It's just Lucas' way of letting you know what Luke thinks of Yoda before he finds out who Yoda REALLY is. What does the princess do her hair with after days of torture while in Solitary confinement? Obviously her hairdo is the result of highly advanced Golgafrinchan hairdressing tecnology which allows her hair to remain neat and clean for months at a time.
mcdaniel (03/06/83)
#R:sri-arpa:-49600:uiucdcs:12500024:000:557 uiucdcs!mcdaniel Mar 5 22:24:00 1983 In Star Wars IV, when they're going to the Millenial Falcon to leave Tatooine, there's a brief shot of R2D2 going down a flight of stairs (on the far left of the screen). In several places, R2D2 sort of jumps up and down using his three "legs"; in several places, he is shown moving/retracting/extending them (if he couldn't, he couldn't topple over when the Jawas zap him). I presume, then, that by appropriate leg movements, he could go up and down stairs, albeit slowly. God save the Princess! Tim McDaniel (. . . pur-ee!uiucdcs!mcdaniel)