deb@fluor.opt-sci.arizona.edu (Deborah Thompson) (04/16/91)
Okay, now that we've had a question about Saber C++, is anyone using the ParcPlace environment, ObjectWorks C++? My group is moving to C++ from C and ObjectWorks is at least competitive with Saber, if not actually a better buy money wise. I'd appreciated any input and would be glad to summarize if there is sufficient interest. Thanks Deb Thompson
glenn@welch.jhu.edu (Glenn M. Mason) (04/16/91)
In article <2529@amethyst.math.arizona.edu> deb@fluor.opt-sci.arizona.edu (Deborah Thompson) writes: > >Okay, now that we've had a question about Saber C++, >is anyone using the ParcPlace environment, ObjectWorks C++? >My group is moving to C++ from C and ObjectWorks is at >least competitive with Saber, if not actually a better buy >money wise. I'd appreciated any input and would be glad >to summarize if there is sufficient interest. I had the displeasure of evaluating ObjectWorks 1.01 for SunOS some time ago. I am not sure what the current version is, state of bugs, etc., but I can comment on the version I was testing. It sucked! There were no hooks that would allow me to make use of existing makefiles for existing code. There was no way to use a makefile at all from within the ObjectWorks environment. The most disasterous *flaw* that I uncovered was that was absolutely no way to pass any flags to your C++ compiler running under- neath the development environment ... no preproccessor control, no code optimization, no control over compiler output, no control over allignment, symbol table generation, etc., etc., etc. When I called technical support to find a work-around for this, they couldn't come up with anything. At that instant I threw the tapes into the circular file and deleted the sources. I can't comment on Saber-C++, but I have seen and used Saber-C. It is excellent. It is very easy to use and is very powerful. It provides hooks in your makefiles so that makefiles that manage huge projects can be utilized from within the Saber environment. I'm not sure about the prices, but I believe they are both in the same ballpark. I would definitely look more closely at the Saber product before I made a decision. Glenn
gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu) (04/17/91)
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We evaluated ObjectWorks and a few other compilers:
o I found the ParcPlace salemen emphasizing the pretty browsing
capabilities of ObjectWorks, whereas there debugging capabilities
are far behind Saber C++ or HP Softbench;
o at the time, ObjectWorks ran only under SunViews. It now runs
under the various X flavors (Motif, Sun XView, vanilla X);
o Saber delivers both a compiler and an interpreter;
o Saber C++ has dynamic linking (invaluable for large applications
under development).
We chose Saber C++.
George
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