karthur@codas.att.com (Kurt_R_Arthur) (01/06/88)
Sorry I don't have a reference included, but....
The original question (not posted by me) was:
what is the current release of Borland's Turbo C?
The originator stated he had received Turbo 1.0 as a Christmas present and had
heard rumors 1.5 was shipping.
My response:
Yes, Turbo 1.5 is presently shipping, and the poster should contact
Borland to avoid paying the upgrade fee.
A third party then posted:
How can I get a free upgrade?
My response to this:
If you have received an older version of a software package during
the time the company is shipping a new version, MOST reputable com-
panies will give you a free upgrade. If in this case Borland would
not, I would take advantage of the money back guarantee to retrieve
my cash, and then buy another company's compiler.
I'm sorry I don't have the original postings, but our computer trashed all of
the postings on it when a maintenance action occurred.
Kurt Arthur
Software Services of Florida, Inc.jpn@teddy.UUCP (John P. Nelson) (01/07/88)
>The original question (not posted by me) was: > what is the current release of Borland's Turbo C? > >The originator stated he had received Turbo 1.0 as a Christmas present and had >heard rumors 1.5 was shipping. Just to set the record straight, Turbo C 1.5 is indeed shipping, but is NOT a free upgrade :-( There have been advertisements in most computer magazines, and the upgrade costs $33.50 + $5.00 S&H. You can call a toll-free number: (800) 543-7543: They require the serial number on the master disk, and credit card. Or you can use mail order, using the coupon in the ad. The ad also says that the offer expires June 30, 1988.
karthur@codas.att.com (Kurt_R_Arthur) (01/07/88)
In article <4549@teddy.UUCP> jpn@teddy.UUCP (John P. Nelson) writes: > Xref: codas comp.lang.c:5892 comp.sys.ibm.pc:11283 > >>The original question (not posted by me) was: >> what is the current release of Borland's Turbo C? >> >>The originator stated he had received Turbo 1.0 as a Christmas present and had >>heard rumors 1.5 was shipping. > > Just to set the record straight, Turbo C 1.5 is indeed shipping, but > is NOT a free upgrade :-( There have been advertisements in most > computer magazines, and the upgrade costs $33.50 + $5.00 S&H. > > You can call a toll-free number: (800) 543-7543: They require the > serial number on the master disk, and credit card. Or you can use > mail order, using the coupon in the ad. The ad also says that the > offer expires June 30, 1988. To all (and I hope I explain it right THIS TIME!): 1. I _KNOW_ TC has an upgrade fee. ^^^^ 2. The original poster said he had received TC 1.0 as a Christmas present (ie, less than 30 days ago). 3. Borland has a 30-day money-back guarantee. 4. Logic dictates Borland should give the original poster a free upgrade for 1.5 when he ships back his 1.0 package. My logic is as follows: Per item (2) above, the original owner has NOT owned the package past it's non-returnable date. Per item (3) above, Borland will refund his money if the poster requests it. If Borland refuses the free upgrade, the original poster should: 1. Return his package for a refund. 2. Buy a new compiler (not necessarily Borland's). Borland does not want the poster to buy a competitor's compiler with the money they have returned to him, so they should make it easy for him to do business with them by eliminating the riga- marole outlined above and just GIVE HIM A FREE UPGRADE WHEN THEY RECEIVE HIS OLD ONE. In either case, for a NET outlay of $0.00 (nothing) the user will get a version of a compiler that is current. 5. The items outlined above only apply under the following conditions: 1. The compiler has a money-back guarantee. 2. The owner of the compiler purchased an old version while the new version is shipping. 3. The owner has not exceeded the money-back guarantee time period. I must conclude based on the positions stated above that in a very narrowly defined instance it is possible to receive a free upgrade to Turbo C, either directly or through the return compiler-get money-buy another compiler cycle. Sorry if I sound aggravated, I just thought I had explained this well before. Kurt Arthur Software Services of Florida, Inc.
wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) (01/08/88)
Turbo C ugrade from 1.0 to 1.5 cost: $33.50 if you are an old-timer like me -- or -- $15.00 if you got your TC 1.0 after 10/1/87 Add $5 for shipping and handling Corporate office phone (408) 438-8400 or call the order line (good luck!!) at (800) 543-7543. I ordered my TC 1.5 via fone on Dec. 10, 1987 and I have not received the upgrade yet.
gvw1@ihlpf.ATT.COM (George V. Wilder) (01/09/88)
In article <1484@codas.att.com>, karthur@codas.att.com (Kurt_R_Arthur) writes: > In article <4549@teddy.UUCP> jpn@teddy.UUCP (John P. Nelson) writes: > > Xref: codas comp.lang.c:5892 comp.sys.ibm.pc:11283 > > > >>The original question (not posted by me) was: > >> what is the current release of Borland's Turbo C? > >> > >>The originator stated he had received Turbo 1.0 as a Christmas present and had > >>heard rumors 1.5 was shipping. > > > > Just to set the record straight, Turbo C 1.5 is indeed shipping, but > > is NOT a free upgrade :-( There have been advertisements in most > > computer magazines, and the upgrade costs $33.50 + $5.00 S&H. > > > > You can call a toll-free number: (800) 543-7543: They require the > > serial number on the master disk, and credit card. Or you can use > > mail order, using the coupon in the ad. The ad also says that the > > offer expires June 30, 1988. Before I saw all of the above, I called Borland, and they said that since I (actually my wife) had purchased TC 1.0 within the last 60 days, I could get an upgrade by sending in: (1) A copy of my paid receipt (2) The serial number on my master disk (3) AND $10.00. So I did this past Monday (1/4). Personally, if the upgrade is as significant as I have been told, I really DON'T mind having to pay the $10. Anyway, that's the "rest of the story." -- George V. Wilder ihnp4!ihlpf!gvw1
davidg@swindle.uucp (David Gaertner) (01/10/88)
In lots of previous articles.... >> > >> >>The original question (not posted by me) was: >> >> what is the current release of Borland's Turbo C? >> >> >> >>The originator stated he had received Turbo 1.0 as a Christmas present and had >> >>heard rumors 1.5 was shipping. >> > >> > Just to set the record straight, Turbo C 1.5 is indeed shipping, but >> > is NOT a free upgrade :-( There have been advertisements in most >> > computer magazines, and the upgrade costs $33.50 + $5.00 S&H. >> > I ordered the upgrade the day they began taking orders for it. Apparently the rumor that TC 1.5 is now shipping is just that, a rumor. Borland seems to be continuing its tradition of being a terrible shipper. Always late, they are. I've called them many times, and still nothing's shown up in my mailbox. I'm getting pretty sick of Borland. I wonder if Microsoft is any better... To give them a little credit, though, at least they didn't charge the fee to my card when I ordered the upgrade way back when. / / David Gaertner __/ __. , __o __/ ...ucbvax!cory!davidg, davidg@cory.berkeley.edu (_/_(_/|_\/ <__(_/_ I don't give spare change or go to friendly bible meetings. / / David Gaertner __/ __. , __o __/ ...ucbvax!cory!davidg, davidg@cory.berkeley.edu (_/_(_/|_\/ <__(_/_ I don't give spare change or go to friendly bible meetings.
nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (01/11/88)
In article <101@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu> davidg@swindle.UUCP (David Gaertner) writes: ... >Apparently the rumor that TC 1.5 is now shipping is just that, a rumor. ... Interesting... How do you explain my ownership of TC 1.5 then? The upgrade amounts to $38.50 (including $5 shipping). We get all Borland products via the "Scholar's Program", which gets us them for about the same price. Our service center sells them for $40 + $2.80 tax. Since the difference in cost for a new version of TC 1.5 was only $4, and we *had* TC 1.5 in stock (we have since run out), and the upgrade delay was five weeks, I opted for a new copy. Copied of Borland products sold via the Scholar's Program must be used in a course curriculum. Contact Borland for details. -russ
tommie@psivax.UUCP (Tom Levin) (01/13/88)
In article <101@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu> davidg@swindle.UUCP (David Gaertner) writes: >I ordered the upgrade the day they began taking orders for it. >Apparently the rumor that TC 1.5 is now shipping is just that, a rumor. > > / / David Gaertner > __/ __. , __o __/ ...ucbvax!cory!davidg, davidg@cory.berkeley.edu >(_/_(_/|_\/ <__(_/_ I don't give spare change or go to friendly bible meetings. About a month ago I got a letter from Borland saying that I would get a free upgrade due to early problems I had with v1.0. Another week later it was on my doorstep! I *love* Borland! ;-) About the upgrade...it is well worth the $33.00 fee. One of the really nice features is the different fonts available in graphics mode. Have fun. -- Tom Levin (The Robo-Programmer) {ihnp4|sdcrdcf|ttidca|scgvaxd|nrcvax| part man, part machine... jplpro|hoptoad |csun|quad1|bellcore| all hacker! logico|rdlvax}!psivax!tommie
davidg@scam.uucp (David Gaertner) (01/14/88)
In article <1982@psivax.UUCP> tommie@psivax.UUCP (Tom Levin) writes: >In article <101@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu> davidg@swindle.UUCP (David Gaertner) writes: >>I ordered the upgrade the day they began taking orders for it. >>Apparently the rumor that TC 1.5 is now shipping is just that, a rumor. > >About a month ago I got a letter from Borland saying that I would >get a free upgrade due to early problems I had with v1.0. >Another week later it was on my doorstep! I *love* Borland! ;-) > >About the upgrade...it is well worth the $33.00 fee. One of the >really nice features is the different fonts available in graphics >mode. Have fun. >-- Jeeesus! I hear all this stuff about people getting their TC upgrades, yet here I still sit, getting poorer with every phone call to that piece of garbage company in Scotts Valley. And still, no TC. Last week I called them and was told that I'd be called back; they seemed to realize there was a problem in the fact that still I had no upgrade. This week, after not getting a call, I called again. For the sixth time in as many weeks, I was told I'd get the upgrade in 2 weeks. This is god damned annoying. The person on the phone even suggested that I cancel the upgrade order and go to a store and pick one up. Sure, only $30 bucks more that I don't need.... Here I sit hoping to do some serious program development in Turbo C, but I guess I'll have to use MASM and Turbo Pascal. Ugh. So, does this supposed upgrade support the Hercules incolor card? / / David Gaertner __/ __. , __o __/ ...ucbvax!cory!davidg, davidg@cory.berkeley.edu (_/_(_/|_\/ <__(_/_ I don't give spare change or go to friendly bible meetings.
pjh@mccc.UUCP (Peter J. Holsberg) (01/15/88)
On their Forum on CompuServe, the Borland people have announced that the
delay in shipping 1.5 upgrades was caused by running out of manuals
(there are 3 with 1.5), and that all orders would be filled in a 4 - 6
week period.
--
Peter Holsberg UUCP: {rutgers!}princeton!mccc!pjh
Technology Division CompuServe: 70240,334
Mercer College GEnie: PJHOLSBERG
Trenton, NJ 08690 Voice: 1-609-586-4800wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) (01/16/88)
I ordered my upgrade from TC 1.0 --> 1.5 on Nov. 23rd. I still have not received my upgrade. I started getting suspicious when the guy in the office next to me ordered TC just last week and got ver 1.5 within a few days of placing his order. I called Borland on Jan. 13th at my expense since I couldn't get through on the gosh darn 800 number -- heck they must only have one line. After sitting on hold for 20 minutes, I found out that they lost my order because I have the same last name as somebody who lives in Lakewood, Ohio who had ordered Turbo Pascal 4.0. I live in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio and I could care less about TP 4.0!!!!!! Arrrrgh. I sure hope they didn't use Reflex, Paradox, or another of their own programs to write their customer database. --Bill
john@tower.UUCP (John Moore) (01/17/88)
In article <1982@psivax.UUCP> tommie@psivax.UUCP (Tom Levin) writes: >In article <101@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu> davidg@swindle.UUCP (David Gaertner) writes: >>I ordered the upgrade the day they began taking orders for it. >>Apparently the rumor that TC 1.5 is now shipping is just that, a rumor. I have received mine about 2 weeks ago. -- John Moore (NJ7E) hao!noao!mcdsun!nud!anasazi!john (602) 861-7607 (day or evening) The opinions expressed here are obviously not mine, so they must be someone else's.
davidg@sting.uucp (David Gaertner) (01/23/88)
In article <508@tower.UUCP> john@tower.UUCP (John Moore) writes: >>>I ordered the upgrade the day they began taking orders for it. >>>Apparently the rumor that TC 1.5 is now shipping is just that, a rumor. >I >have >received >mine >about 2 weeks ago. >-- >John Moore (NJ7E) hao!noao!mcdsun!nud!anasazi!john I FINALLY GOT MINE, TOO! Why do you write like that, John? Anyway, apparently Borland had problems with their VAX and the order entry software on it. It probably couldn't handle all the requests for Turbo C 1.5 AND Turbo Pascal 4.0 AND the toolboxes. They even sent out a nice letter of apology with the upgrade. / / David Gaertner __/ __. , __o __/ ...uunet!cory!davidg, davidg@cory.berkeley.edu (_/_(_/|_\/ <__(_/_ Men have it better off: they marry later & die sooner.