shirono@grasp.cis.upenn.edu (Roberto Shironoshita) (03/16/88)
WARNING: If you are not interested in the bounced-back messages from
the brain-damaged mailer at ALASKA, go on to the next message.
WARNING2: This is a rather long one.
twb@hoqaz.UUCP (BEATTIE) [<1340@hoqaz.UUCP>],
schmidt@BONNIE.ICS.UCI.EDU (Douglas C. Schmidt) [<12368@brl-adm.ARPA>],
jejones@mcrware.UUCP (James Jones) [<611@mcrware.UUCP>],
richardh@killer.UUCP (Richard Hargrove) [<3693@killer.UUCP>],
qwerty@drutx.ATT.COM (Brian Jones) [<6951@drutx.ATT.COM>],
all complain about the 100+ "Undelivered message" articles that have
come from ALASKA (BitNet) as a result of a user that no longer exists,
and a brain-damaged mailer.
FLAME ON
Since you all complain about the net-cluttering from these messages,
why did you post at all? You are doing exactly the same as the poor
brain-damaged mailer at ALASKA, except that you are sentient and thus
supposedly know what you are doing. Let us try to stick to C issues.
FLAME OFF
ASBESTOS ON
I know this article is close to being in the same category as the ones
above (and those that will come), but I felt it was necessary to post
this one.
ASBESTOS OFF
When I noticed the heavy traffic bouncing back from ALASKA, I sent a
message to the following people:
postmaster@NDSUVM1.bitnet, postmaster@ALASKA.bitnet,
postmaster@UWAVM.bitnet, postmaster@brl-smoke.apra
The list administrator at NDSUVM1 (INFO@NDSUVM1), sent me the
following reply:
> Unfortunately, all this happened at a time when I didn't get on
> to our Postmaster ID... As soon as I saw over 200 items waiting I
> KNEW something was up. I am sorry about the delay. I deleted the
> ALASKA person as soon as I got on this afternoon.
> Ironically, if the error message had been sent to the "Sender:"
> rather than the "Reply-To" field, they would never have gotten
> propogated. In fact, the BITNET/EARN/NetNorth subscribers never saw
> them because LISTSERV (the software which does the redistribution)
> correctly filtered these out (and sent them to me... :-( ).
> I have had errors from the Alaska system before. I am not an
> expert on RFC822 but I think most processes send the errors to the
> "From:" or "Sender:" addresses, rather than the "Reply-To:".
> If this continues to be a problem, I could probably go through
> the lists I redistribute and pull off all the ALASKA node
> subscribers, but I really don't want to do that.
> Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Again, I apologize
> for it taking so long to get the person deleted from the
> redistribution list.
The point is, you are annoyed, and so is everybody else. Don't
complain to the net; complain to those responsible at the problematic
sites.
Roberto Shironoshita
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