[comp.lang.c] Svid a standard?

rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) (04/14/88)

>... actively incompatible with the standard
>interface ("standard" meaning the /usr/group standard and the SVID -- real
>standards -- ...
The only thing that makes the SVID a standard is the unmitigated gall
of AT&T in calling it such.  A series of books written by a single vendor
does not a standard make.

Were honesty more valued in the marketplace, vendors would be saying
	we conform to the SVID guidelines
and those that have signed a Release 3 license would be saying
	we conform to the SVID requirements
    /rich $alz
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gwyn@brl-smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) (04/15/88)

In article <623@fig.bbn.com> rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) writes:
>The only thing that makes the SVID a standard is the unmitigated gall
>of AT&T in calling it such.

Various federal procurement review boards have upheld the use of
SVID as a valid standard, and the federal government is hypersensitive
to issues of unfair competition.

From a practical viewpoint, I find the SVID more useful than the
(so far incomplete) POSIX standards are shaping up to be.

That's not to say the SVID is perfect, of course.

henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (04/17/88)

> The only thing that makes the SVID a standard is the unmitigated gall
> of AT&T in calling it such...

No, the thing that makes the SVID a standard is the vast clout AT&T wields
in the Unix world.  Whether it *should* wield such clout is another issue;
the fact is, it *does*.  A great many vendors (and users!) are influenced
heavily by the SVID, despite its single-vendor status, and it is a major
influence on standards work (e.g. POSIX) as well.  Whether we like it or
not, the SVID *is* a (de facto) real standard.

This situation has precedent, by the way.  Every time you mount a magtape,
remember that its "standard" format was decided by IBM.
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