swilson%thetone@Sun.COM (Scott Wilson) (10/26/88)
In article <8747@smoke.BRL.MIL> gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) <gwyn>) writes: >Probably the main reason you were flamed for your attempt to be helpful >is that the advice you gave was poor. >[...] >It is particularly galling to see such a suggestion coming out of AT&T, >considering all the hours I have spent in tracking down and fixing this >exact problem in source code that AT&T licensed commercially. I hope >you AT&T hackers learn how to use the official variable argument >mechanism and save us all a lot of unnecessary grief. While I agree with your critique of the poster's post, I think any comments linking a poster with his employer are unfair, unjust, and just plain stupid. Aren't we all grown up enough to not have to put **disclaimer** around every word we write. Clearly the original poster was not representing any official position of AT&T. Do we even have any idea of his function at AT&T? I've had people tell me that a "Sun person should know better", etc. Hell, for all you know I could just be a janitor with an account. The point is that companies can have many, many, people with net access that may not necessarily be related to any product or experience you've had with that company. If someone is an idiot, call THEM an idiot. Leave their company, school, organization, etc. out of it. Dragging an organization's name into the discussion could cause them to try to limit net access to their employees for fear that they will embarrass the organization. I don't want to see this happen. -- Scott Wilson arpa: swilson@sun.com Sun Microsystems uucp: ...!sun!swilson Mt. View, CA
mhm@cbnews.ATT.COM (Michael H. Moran) (10/26/88)
In article <74525@sun.uucp> swilson@sun.UUCP (Scott Wilson) writes: [ Text rehashing the whole thread of comments ] >that company. If someone is an idiot, call THEM an idiot. Leave >their company, school, organization, etc. out of it. Dragging an >organization's name into the discussion could cause them to try >to limit net access to their employees for fear that they will >embarrass the organization. I don't want to see this happen. >Scott Wilson arpa: swilson@sun.com >Sun Microsystems uucp: ...!sun!swilson >Mt. View, CA In most companies, the only things that get back to the management are the negative aspects of the net. The cost, the "wasted" man hours, and the impact it has on the company when some idiot says something the he/she should be flamed for and yet somehow, the company ends up getting flamed. Did you ever stop to wonder what happens to the sites that just go dead? Think management might have cut them off due to the bad image they perceived was being generated about the company. Mike Moran Contracted to AT&T-BL UUCP: att!cbyen!mhm Columbus, Ohio mhm@cbyen.att.com