[net.sf-lovers] Melville in Space

don@allegra.UUCP (09/16/83)

Subject: Did Melville write Star Trek II

"I'll chase him round the moons of Nibia and round the Antares
maelstrom and round perdition's flames before I give him up."

				- Khan (in Star Trek II)

"I'll chase him round Good Hope, and round the Horn, and round the
Norway Maelstrom, and round perdition's flames before I give him up."

				- Captain Ahab (in Moby-Dick)

CSvax:Pucc-H:ab3@pur-ee.UUCP (09/17/83)

	No, I don't think Herman Melville wrote "The Wrath Of Khan"...
however, note that in one of the opening scenes - the one wherein 
Chekhov and whats-his-name find the wrecked spaceship, enter it, and
are discovered by Khan - there is a camera shot of "Moby Dick"...
	Also, the little speech Khan gives just before the big boom-boom
at the end is from Moby Dick - something along the lines of
"From hells depth I strike at thee..."

				Darth Wombat
				headed for Windy City Breakdown

jsgray@watmath.UUCP (Jan Gray) (09/17/83)

Of course.  "Moby Dick" was one of the books Khan took with him from
'Old Earth' (another was Milton's "Paradise Lost").  The books were
clearly visible lying on a shelf in the "Botany Bay" ship in ST2TWOK.

Khan referred to "Paradise Lost" in both "Space Seed" and ST2TWOK...

Good continuity there.

Knowing this belongs in net.startrek,

Jan Gray
University of Waterloo
(519) 885-1211 x2730

jsgray@watmath.UUCP

ziegler@lzmi.UUCP (09/18/83)

    Of course, Khan was very fond of quoting "ancient" Earth
literature.  You will recall that in "Space Seed" one of the
last things he said was a reference to Milton.  Something like
"Better to rule in Hell that to reign in Heaven."  Yes, I know
that Khan never actually said that, but he refered to it and
Kirk later explained the reference to Scotty and the rest of
us ignorami.  (How would you spell the plural of ignoramus?)

			Joe Ziegler
			...hogpc!pegasus!lzmi!ziegler

UC.ART@MIT-EECS@sri-unix.UUCP (09/23/83)

From:  Arturo Perez@MIT-EECS <UC.ART@MIT-EECS>