[net.sf-lovers] The Library!

andree@uokvax.UUCP (11/24/83)

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uokvax!andree    Nov 23 00:33:00 1983

I have just finished the two Brin books recently discussed on the
net (Sundiver/Startide Rising - I nth the various good things
said about the book.) One of the details that Brin put into this
universe struck me very strongly. Since I haven't seen it
mentioned before,  I decided to bring it up.

What I am talking about is @i(the library). Brin postulates a
multi-racial galactic civilization that has, for the last 2
billion years, been recording EVERYTHING that happened to any of
the races in the civilization. Since the average racial lifespan
in this universe appears to be under 100 million years, this
means that the answer to any question that ANYBODY is liable to
ask can be found in the library (oh, before I forget - the
interface is a fairly good AI text search program, so the things
is fairly easy to use). The races in this universe are greatly
affected by the library - it's considered gauche to actually do
research; you should look in the library.

Does this concept strike anybody else strongly? Any comments on
what life would be like with something like that around?

	<mike

preece@uicsl.UUCP (11/29/83)

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uicsl!preece    Nov 28 09:23:00 1983

Some of the characters in Startide Rising are searching for
evidence that the Library is not the unbiased fact reservoir it
claims to be, but rather is specifically tailored to the race it
has been provided to and provides answers filling some unnamed
other race's intentions for us.  The question of equal access to
information is fast becoming central to our society, so it's
interesting to see it raised in this context.

scott preece
ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece

lmc@denelcor.UUCP (Lyle McElhaney) (11/30/83)

Brin goes to a lot of pains pointing out the problems inherent to such an
approach to life - particularly on Kithrup, the men & fen are always
approaching problems (mnamely, getting out of there) in original ways
not covered in the library. Most of the thesis of Sundiver results from
the library's failure to find any experience parallel to the beings
living in the Sun. It is apparant that, while the library is a fantastic
help in getting things done, its not the final answer, or even a particularly
good answer - at least for Earth. The only systems that failed on the
Sundiver vehicle were the ones taken, without understanding, from the
library.

				Lyle McElhaney
				...(hao,nbires,brl-bmd)!denelcor!lmc

friedman@uiucdcs.UUCP (friedman ) (12/03/83)

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uiucdcs!friedman    Dec  2 08:54:00 1983

"The only systems that failed on the Sundiver vehicle were the ones taken,
without understanding, from the library."

That was true, but it was also stated that the reason was probably that the
saboteur ignored the human-developed systems, assuming that they would be
useless to save the expedition.