neil@atari.UUcp (Neil Harris) (11/18/86)
In article <2686@utai.UUCP>, jpierre@utai.UUCP writes: > > Would anyone know if and when BORLAND is planning to come out with > TURBO MODULA2 for the Atari ST series? According to Borland at the Comdex show, they have no plans for Modula-2 for _any_ system. -- --->Neil @ Atari ...{hoptoad, lll-lcc, pyramid, imagen, sun}!atari!neil BIX: neilharris CIS: 70007,1135 Delphi: NEILHARRIS GENIE: nharris WELL: neil Atari Corp. BBS 408-745-5308 US Mail: Atari Corp. 1196 Borregas Ave. Sunnyvale, CA 94086 "Loose chips sink ships."
manis@ubc-cs.UUCP (11/19/86)
In article <467@atari.UUcp> neil@atari.UUCP writes: >According to Borland at the Comdex show, they have no plans for Modula-2 >for _any_ system. That's what I thought until Steve Ciarcia packaged CP/M-80 Turbo Modula-2 with his new graphics board. In any case, why wait on Borland? I find the TDI developer's package quite usable. It certainly is not a suitable introductory system, but it's highly usable for serious work. Maybe one of the other Modula-2 vendors will put out a good introductory system. Borland's big push right now seems to be Turbo Basic. Yawn. >"Loose chips sink ships." Thus mixing the chips with the fish.
peterson@ti-csl.CSNET (Bob Peterson) (11/20/86)
In article <2686@utai.UUCP> jpierre@utai.UUCP writes: > >Would anyone know if and when BORLAND is planning to come out with >TURBO MODULA2 for the Atari ST series? I would also appreciate >comments on TDI's MODULA2 developper's package for the ST. The following two messages were posted to the Compuserve Forum run by Borland International. These are only the most recent two messages of a conversation that began around a month ago when Dave complained that Borland had talked about a Modula-2 product for quite some time, over a year, but had made no firm announcements regarding the product. In an eariler message, which I did not retain a copy of, Borland announced that the CP/M-80 version of their Modula-2 compiler has been licensed to both MicroMint and Echelon. This compiler is derived from the one demonstrated at the MODUS meeting over a year ago. MicroMint and Echelon will distribute and support the product, ie, at this time Borland has little if any responsibility left for that product. I've removed Dave's surname, since I'm quoting him without permission. Larry Kraft (SysOp) manages this particular Borland Forum and I understand Larry is a Borland employee. Borland is careful not to tell Larry about unannounced products. ----Begin quoted Compuserve messages---- #: 67595 S0/General 13-Nov-86 19:14:14 Sb: #67514-#Modula Complaint Fm: Dave 72457,3521 To: Larry Kraft (SysOp) 76703,764 Larry, I think what would be polite here would be at least an indication from Borland that either the product does have a future or does not. That alone would mean a great deal to folks who have waited this long. I agree that early announcements are not the best policy but in this case it's been done and now we all have to live with that. A simple "Yes, we're continuing to work on it and do not intend to drop it." would be a big help. More info I understand can't be brought forth due to corporate concerns probably. But leaving us all in a total vacuum sin't fair either. Just a nod please, either yea or nay would be greatly appreciated. #: 67992 S0/General 18-Nov-86 17:20:58 Sb: #67595-Modula Complaint Fm: Larry Kraft (SysOp) 76703,764 To: Dave 72457,3521 Dave, We are indeed continuing to work on DOS Modula-2. Don't worry about us dropping it. Thanks for understanding that I can't say a whole lot more about it at this time. I hope this diminishes that vaccuum feeling and am glad you are so interested in this future product. Larry ----End of quoted Compuserve messages---- In my mind, this (1) confirms that Borland continues development on the unannounced MS-DOS Modula-2 compiler, (2) contradicts what they said at their Comdex booth, and (3) confirms that there is no promise when, if ever, Borland will sell at retail any Modula-2 compiler. -- Hardcopy and Electronic Addresses: and Office: Bob Peterson Compuserve: 76703,532 NB CSC Aisle:B2 P.O. Box 1686 Usenet: ...!ut-sally!im4u!ti-csl!peterson Plano, Tx USA 75074 (214) 995-6080 (work) or (214) 596-3720 (ans. machine)
mickunas@uiucdcs.cs.uiuc.edu (11/20/86)
I was visited yesterday by a representative of a publishing company which plans a text on Modula2. She said that Bordland was writing a IBMPC Modula2 compiler to be bundled FREE with the book. I'm sure that she and the small, relatvely unknown publishing company wouldn't mind this free publicity. She is: Marjorie Schlaikjer Editor Boyd & Fraser Publishing Company Statler Office Bldg 20 Park Plaza Boston, MA 02116 (617) 426-2292 I told her that I'd believe it when I see it.
tla@kaiser.UUCP (T Anderson) (11/25/86)
Browsing through a bookstore over the weekend I noticed a new book on Modula-2 and was surprised to see that it claimed to cover all the extensions offer in "Borland's Modula-2", which it claimed became available in 1986! An employee of Borland actually demonstrated the CPM version at the Modula-2 Users group (MODUS) meeting in Sep 1985 (yes 85). It seemed to be fully functional. So why it hasn't been released over a year later has to be a marketing decision. -- Terry L Anderson AT&T Bell Laboratories -- Liberty Corners UUCP: ...!ihnp4!daimler!kaiser!tla TeleMail: Terry.Anderson (201) 580-4428
abp@j.cc.purdue.edu (Jeffrey J Wieland) (09/13/87)
Is there anyone using Borland's Turbo Modula 2 (as marketed by Echelon)? I have run across a discrepency between two reviews of it. In Micro-Cornucopia, it appeared to be capable of linking just the required code from a library, but in a review in the latest Profiles, the author stated that it loaded in the entire module! Which is it? Thanks, Jeff Wieland abp@j.cc.purdue.edu