Barry_Cornelius@durham.ac.UK (06/17/88)
 Nathan Bohlmann and Keith Campbell have recently communicated
 about how type changes are performed in Modula-2.   It is, in fact,
 possible to distinguish between two different kinds of type change
 in Modula-2:
 o  Given a value of one type, the language specifies an appropriate
    value of another type.  This kind of type change will be referred
    to as a coercion.
 o  Given a value of one type, its internal representation is interpreted
    as if it were that of another type.  This kind of type change will
    be referred to as a cast.
 Often an implementation will have to generate run-time code
 in order to perform a coercion, whereas a cast requires no such
 overhead.  Obviously, casts should be avoided if a program is to be
 portable.  Sometimes coercions and casts are referred to as
 safe and unsafe conversions.
 In Modula-2, there are five standard functions
 which perform coercions; they are CHR, ORD, FLOAT, TRUNC and VAL.
 Section 12 of the Modula-2 Report includes details of how casts
 can be performed in Modula-2.  A type identifier T can be used
    ``as a name denoting the type transfer from the type
    of the operand to the type T.  ... such functions
    ... involve no explicit conversion instructions''.
 Although it is not actually stated, implementations usually assume
 that the values of the two types occupy the same amount of storage.
 For example, suppose that this is true for the types CARDINAL
 and INTEGER and that the CARDINAL variable c has the value
 65535, then the expression INTEGER(c) is of type INTEGER
 and has a value which is dependent on the internal representations of
 the types CARDINAL and INTEGER.  This value is often -1
 on a 16-bit computer and 65535 on a 32-bit computer.
 Programmers frequently use expressions like INTEGER(c)
 in order to convert a value of type CARDINAL into one of type
 INTEGER.  However, this practice ought to be avoided
 since it only works if the types CARDINAL and INTEGER
 have the same representation for the possible values of c.
 Although this is likely to be the case, programmers ought to use
 VAL(INTEGER,c) which is guaranteed to work for appropriate values of c.
 It is interesting to note that most of the problems concerning
 type changes are not present in the language Oberon.  In particular,
 the type CARDINAL has been removed and the types LONGREAL, REAL,
 LONGINT, INTEGER and SHORTINT are compatible with each other.
 Wirth also considers it inappropriate to define for Oberon
 a mechanism for performing casts.  He describes Modula-2's
 type transfer functions as a ``a particularly seducing trap''!
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    BITNET/EARN: Barry_Cornelius%DUR.MTS@AC.UKheiser@ethz.UUCP (Gernot Heiser) (06/24/88)
In article <INFO-M2%88061707562183@UCF1VM> Info-Modula2 Distribution List <INFO-M2%UCF1VM.bitnet@jade.berkeley.edu> writes: > > Programmers frequently use expressions like INTEGER(c) > in order to convert a value of type CARDINAL into one of type > INTEGER. However, this practice ought to be avoided > since it only works if the types CARDINAL and INTEGER > have the same representation for the possible values of c. > Although this is likely to be the case, programmers ought to use > VAL(INTEGER,c) which is guaranteed to work for appropriate values of c. Sorry for having to contradict here: There is nothing in the report (as I read it) that supports the claim that VAL(INTEGER,c) or VAL(CARDINAL,i) will work "as intended" although it _does_ work on all compilers I know (at least all those that implement VAL more or less according to the report). In fact a strict interpretation of the report implies the opposite. Quoting from PIM2, ed3, p 162: "ORD(x) ordinal number (of type CARDINAL) of x in the set of values defined by type T of x. T is an enumeration type, CHAR, INTEGER, or CARDINAL. "VAL(T,x) the value with ordinal number x and with type T. T is any enumeration type, or CHAR, INTEGER, or CARDINAL. VAL(T,ORD(x)) = x, if x is of type T." In other words, VAL with a CARDINAL argument is the inverse of ORD. The question is, what is ORD(i) (i being INTEGER)? It cannot be the CARDINAL representation of the number whose INTEGER representation is i, since not all numbers that have an INTEGER representation have a CARDINAL representation too (namely the negative INTEGERs). So, unless one assumes that ORD is not defined for all INTEGERs (and there is no indication in the report that would support such an assumption) and unless one is prepared to treat INTEGER as a special case (different from enumerationes, CHAR and CARDINAL, and again there is no indication to support that in the report) one has to assume that ORD(MinInt)=0, ORD(MinInt+1) = 1, ORD(MaxInt)=MaxCard etc. Consequently, VAL(INTEGER,c) does not at all work as intended! (For all other types VAL(T,x) is indeed the "safe" conversion.) I agree, that's nonsensical, however that's what the report says. Fortunately, no compiler (that I know of) does it that way, but assuming VAL(INTEGER,c) to be the "safe" conversion from CARDINAL to INTEGER is relying on all compilers violating the language report. Note that Wirth in his later compilers solves the problem in his characteristic way: he gives VAL(T,x) the semantics that T(x) used to have and completely eliminates "save" type transfers. > == > Barry Cornelius -- Gernot Heiser <heiser@iis.UUCP> Phone: +41 1/256 23 48 Integrated Systems Laboratory CSNET/ARPA: heiser%ifi.ethz.ch@relay.cs.net ETH Zuerich EARN/BITNET: GRIDFILE@CZHETH5A CH-8092 Zuerich, Switzerland EUNET/UUCP: {uunet,mcvax,...}!iis!heiser