[net.sf-lovers] Matriarchies

LRC.HJJH@UTEXAS-20.ARPA (12/30/83)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Scientifictional Matriarchies ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

As oldtimers on SF-L may recall (there ARE still some oldtimers
around, aren't there?  What ever happened to Roger Duffy, or Larke, or
Karen at Park-Max, or Bruce Israel?), I collect-- and study-- SF books
with female protagonists.  Haven't given much attention to this
project for a long time, other than buying the paperbacks as I come
across them, but am now getting up steam on it again.  It's grown
beyond what can be readily handled, so for one thing, I'm working it
up as a database (using System 2000).  For another, I'll be putting
out queries on the net from time to time in hopes of gleaning
information from the more voracious readers out there.

For instance, regardless of the gender of the protagonist, what SF
(NOT mainstream or feminist-published) novels (NOT short stories)
feature matriarchies?

I've come across:
   Anderson's VIRGIN PLANET
   Bradley's RUINS OF ISIS
   Charnas' MOTHERLINES
   Cherryh's SERPENT'S REACH  (non-humanoid aliens)
   Cooper's GENDER GENOCIDE
   DeCamp's ROGUE QUEEN  (humanoid aliens)
   Lane's MIZORA
   Maine's ALPH
   Reynolds' AMAZON PLANET

Surely there's more than that!  Anyone know of any others?
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SOMMERS@RUTGERS.ARPA (01/01/84)

From:  LIz <SOMMERS@RUTGERS.ARPA>


You will find matriarchies in Joanna Russ' The Female Man and many of
her other books.  (I like this book - even though most of my friends
think it is terrible - of course I like Dahlgren also...)

A very interesting matriarchy is in (author unremembered and my books
are still packed) the two book series containing

Walk to the End of the World
Motherlines.

liz//

Ps.  These are both in the radical feminist-lesbian tradition - but
they are definitly science fiction.  If you are interested in
matriarchies per se - try Jane Harrison's Themis - published early in
this century but reprinted within the last ten years.  This book deals
with the conflict between matriarchy and patriarchy in Hellenic Greece
as a source of myth.

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RTILLSON%DEC-MARLBORO@sri-unix.UUCP (01/13/84)

From:  Rita M. Tillson <RTILLSON at DEC-MARLBORO>

One of the finest books I have read involving a matriarchy is actually
about the decline and fall  of a matriarchy -  THE MISTS OF AVALON  by
Marion Zimmer Bradley.  It is  Arthurian legend, told completely  from
the viewpoint of the female characters, Vivianne, Morgaine,  Morgause,
and Gwenefheur.   Its focus  is on  the conflict  between the  ancient
Druidic society, a matriarchy, and the patriarchal Christian  society.
It is a  "must read"  for anyone interested  in matriarchy,  Arthurian
legend, or Marion Zimmer Bradley.

In my  opinion,  this  is  Bradley's  best work  to  date.   It  is  a
well-researched work;  the  Druidic ritual  is  very close  to  actual
Wiccan ritual, although MZB freely admits to some modification of  the
Wiccan versions.   It is  a very  long book  (about 800  pages, if  my
memory serves  me correctly),  and  very complex.   The  interpersonal
relationships that develop as the years (and pages) pass are  superbly
detailed.  The characters  are real  and believable, and  the plot  is
well developed.   The  book  is  not  without  flaws.   The  wonderful
character development is  occasionally at  the expense  of action  and
pace, and the concluding chapter  should have been left out  entirely.
I found that these  were flaws I easily  overlooked.  The prose  often
approached poetry, and the three page introductory chapter by Morgaine
was almost worth the  price of the hardcover  edition by itself.   THE
MISTS OF AVALON is an innovative and imaginative approach to a  legend
whose retellings often seem  like last night's  leftovers - stale  and
tiresome.  I recommend it highly.

There is a short  story with a matriarchal  theme that I enjoyed  very
much.  Unfortunately,  I read  it years  ago and  cannot remember  the
title.  I believe  it was  by Johanna Russ,  and was  included in  the
DANGEROUS VISIONS series.  It is about a group of colonists whose male
population has been wiped out by a sex-linked disease.  The  remaining
colonists succeed in cloning new offspring.  Having only X chromosomes
to clone from, they have only female children.  The story takes  place
several generations later, when the colonists are "rescued" by a group
of male explorers.  Does anyone remember the title of this story?

/phae

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