kenv@dartvax.UUCP (Ken Varnum) (01/03/84)
seems to me that he is tying his entire science fiction
collection together. In T.R.O.D., he brings in "Liar!", from "I, Robot".
Then, later in the story, he starts to brig in psychohistory, to tie in
the Foundation series. Has anyone else noticed this? Or am I imagining
things???
Ken Varnum (kenv)preece@uicsl.UUCP (01/09/84)
#R:dartvax:-55900:uicsl:10700072:000:215 uicsl!preece Jan 8 11:19:00 1984 You're not imagining things. Asimov has said (in his column in his magazine) that in picking up his series he has consciously made them grow towards a single future history. scott preece ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece
ccw@dvamc.UUCP (01/09/84)
References: dartvax.559
"The Robots of Dawn" seems to be a continuation of the tying together that
Asimov started in "Foundation's Edge".
Chris Woodbury
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fortune!rpw3 Jan 9 10:35:00 1984
I don't think you are imagining things. I too begans to wonder
seriously about The Good Doctor when things started coming
together in "Foundation's Edge", but in "The Robots of Dawn" the
universes are definitely collapsing.
What were people saying about black holes? Sympathetic magic?
It bothers me, for some reason, in a similar way to the unease I
had with Heinlein's "Number of the Beast". It started out o.k.,
but then all (I mean ALL) the old characters from every which
novel started popping up. AARRGGHHH!
Rob Warnock
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USPS: Fortune Systems Corp, 101 Twin Dolphins Drive, Redwood City, CA 94065kadkade@cwruecmp.UUCP (Sudhir Kadkade) (01/13/84)
Does any one else feel that the description of the Mule as an
aberrent Gaia contradicts earlier Foundation stories? Remember the Mule
had a psychological problem having to do with his appearance being
mocked at by his contemporaries and then discovering his exceptional
mental powers to avenge that. However can you imagine the Gaia, highly
enlightened people as they are described to be, first; behaving in such
a fashion toward one of their own and second; not being able to put a
fix into his mind as the Second Foundation did. Also, why would he think
his powers to be exceptional in the company of the Gaia. Further no one
knows anything about the Gaia and no one has successfully returned from
a trip there. How then did the security officer of the First Foundation
(I don't quite remember his name) make a claim, to having visited his
home planet and found out about his superhuman powers to Bayta Darell.
In the Preface Dr.Assimov claims to have read all his previous
work. All I can say is he hasn't read them as well as some of his
readers have. In the future history, I suspect he will ultimately
describe a robot society on Earth and have it fulfill a super Seldon
plan in which Hari Seldon himself was an unwitting participant. Any
other guesses as to the direction of this soap opera?
Sudhir Kadkade
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Does anybody else on the net read A.E. van Vogt?eric@whuxle.UUCP (01/15/84)
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whuxle!eric Jan 14 19:06:00 1984
This is in reply to (gee I forgot your name), who stated that
there was a contradiction in the Foundation stories, since in the
second book the Mule is described as an outcast who discovers PSI
powers, while in Foundation's Edge he is an "aberrant Gaian"
The only point I want to make is that everything here depends on
whose story you want to believe (bear with me). We know from what
Asimov writes in Second Foundation that the Mule was a court
jester of sorts. HOWEVER-- is this Asimov the ALL KNOWING writer
teling us this or is this a narrator telling WHAT HE KNEW THEN.
Clarifaction... the Mule could have fabricated that whole story,
as he couldn't justt say "hey, y'all I just came from this REAL
mind bending place, man!!", and Asimov could relate the whole
story AS a narrator, instead of as the ALL KNOWING AUTHOR....
from the keyboard of
eric holtman
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