Frank.Warren@f42.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Warren) (09/01/90)
Hi, Peter. Got my local sysop to look up the echo, and lo! it was available, with some kindly effort. How are things going with JPI? Last I heard they were refusing to do any refunds on their Many Broken Things, refusing to fix them right now but will fix them Some Day Real Soon Now, and you were getting heat because you wanted something that worked. We can discuss things in a more genial environment here. I'm building laptops these days, and everyone seems to be scared of Modula-2 for some reason. The desire is that I use C and Assembler, not unreasonable I suppose as they *are* more standard tools. As for M2, I have recommended Stony Brook as worth looking at, and JPI as a piece of cheesy junk. You converted to Stony Brook yet? I've largely made the leap. The thing I really want to lay hands to is PMI modules, not quite ready yet for Stony Brook 2.1. Source and all, and I'll be past the compiler blues once and for all, and past the par where I can't move between compilers. I'm starting to be more favorably inclined towards PMI and their like. Later. . -- uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!161!42!Frank.Warren Internet: Frank.Warren@f42.n161.z1.fidonet.org
Peter.M..Perchansky@f101.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Peter M. Perchansky) (09/13/90)
Hello Frank:
JPI does honor their refund policy... but only up to 30 days. The problem with that policy in conjunction with version 2.00 is most of the bugs did not show up after 30 days.
Even after the bugs showed up, we were promised by JPI that JPI would get it right the second time around. So, as you already know, most of us became placated hoping release 1.05 would fix all of the problems.
Release 1.05 did not meet expectations. Don D., Head of Tech Support at JPI, informed me that several files were "touched" that should not have been worked on. Don stated that was part of the reason that many 3rd party toolkits (Solid Software's Btree Toolkit for instance) would not work with release 1.05. Don stated that every release thereafter may cause the same problems.
I am still saving up for Stony Brook Modula-2. In the mean time I've switched back to JPI 1.17.
Would you please consider posting your benchmarks, opinions, etc. about JPI TopSpeed Modula-2 1.17, JPI M2 2.00, and Stony Brook M2?
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