zerr@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Troy Zerr) (02/18/91)
Those of you who do development on PC's are probably familiar with the problems with JPI's Modula-2 V. 2.0 compiler. The compiler had far too many flaws. Some were just plain bugs, and the documentation was the worst compiler documentation that I have ever seen, but the most severe problems were design defects which made using the compiler with non-JPI ANYTHING almost impossible. Those of you that gave up on v.2 and went back to v.1.17 might find the following blurb from the JPAM (JPI) bbs interesting: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am pleased to be able to relay JPI's announcement, made just today, of the V3 family; new M-2 and PASCAL and C++ joining the family. Spoke with Jesper, and the various comments we all made seem to have made it across to London and been taken into account. Jesper recognised me by my namecard. I have great hopes for V3 stuff once the final production hurdles are overcome. ANd this is not a premature release. The Version 3 family was offically announced today, C++ manuals and so on were in evidence. Version 3 is very real, and not a rumor. What I am hoping is that after the Versino 2 hiccup, Version 3 is very real and eliminates the errors that were made with Version 2. Jesper indicated that a *lot* of work has gone not only into TopSpeed interoperability but also into interoperability of TopSpeed languages with the Microsoft .OBJ and Microsoft .LIB world. More Version 3 news: Classes now support multiple inheritance, and other beef has been added into things. In short, the comments we have made here were heard. So Version 3 has been promised to ship within a month, with Software Development '91 being the announcement place and time. If it measures up to the development team's expectation, you'll be able to waltz from language to language as the need arises, and get aftermarket libraries from just about anywhere. Also, I saw a demo running under Windows 3.0. That seems to be part of the new release package. All in all, very promising. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Could it be true?? Could JPI have gotten it right?? Do you remember where you left your "Free Upgrade" coupon?? Stay tuned. -- Troy Zerr zerr@math.wisc.edu uunet!math.wisc.edu!zerr
GRANGERG@VTVM1.BITNET (Greg Granger) (02/18/91)
On Sun, 17 Feb 91 18:55:57 GMT <editor%ucf1vm.BITNET@LILAC.BERKELEY.EDU> said: >Those of you who do development on PC's are probably familiar with the >problems with JPI's Modula-2 V. 2.0 compiler. The compiler had far too >... >Could it be true?? Could JPI have gotten it right?? Do you remember >where you left your "Free Upgrade" coupon?? >... I use version 2 of the JPI M2 compiler and for the most part it does work. I doubt "JPI could have gotten it right", because: 1) They haven't had time to make the kinds of changes needed. 2) The biggest problem they have can never now be addressed Version 1 of there compiler was a simple and elegance product, it could have used a few 'enchancements' but all in all it was what M2 is all about. Version 2 added mega-media-hype-crap (not what M2 is about), and did a poor job of it at that. Course once it's in there it can't be removed... I will upgrade and give it a chance (I do like the product, I'm just disappointed with it's lack of direction/innovation), but if it's more (and more and more) of the same I'm likely to nuke it and put version 1 back on (and save 2 meg of disk space). <big sigh> It's a shame the could find the people who produced version 1 and hire them back <grin> ... Greg