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4034_406@uwovax.uwo.ca (02/28/89)

Does anyone know of a Modula-2 compiler for Sequent
(Symmetry) machines? I would prefer one that gives
convenient access to the parallel programming library
(or otherwise allows the development of ``true''
parallel programs).

- Robin Nicholl
  Computer Science,
  U.W.O., London
  Canada N6A 5B7

  (UUCP: robin@uwocsd.uwo.ca)

chris@sarah.lerc.nasa.gov (Chris Johnston) (09/12/90)

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Amen to that! Once you get people using computers without knowing anything
at all about them you've signed up for lifetime support. I've run into several
people trying to set up a no-brain system, generally "so the secretaries
don't have to learn DOS" (implying that they can't) My experience is that most
of them have no trouble with dos (at least at the level of a regular user), 
they can learn it and they become much more self-sufficient. I've been
running around doing mindless fixes and upgrades for people for a long time.
Once they learn a little bit about the system, my volume of help calls
goes way down. Now, I mostly get calls for harder stuff.
	So, don't underestimate your people, they can almost always do a lot
more than you think.
		Chris

pbloux@isis.cs.du.edu (Paul B. Loux) (02/23/91)

Stony Brook QuickMod compiler costs $95. You can upgrade later to the
full optimizing compiler for another $200. With QuickMod you get the
whole environment and the ability to generate .EXE's. Add the OptComp
and you add calling interface to Microsoft Windows SDK, a profiler,
and the ability to link in foreign objects and so forth. But the QM
is a real decent product all by itself. It produces code twice as fast
as Turbo Pascal 6.0; the OptComp is no doubt quite faster, but I can't
represent it as I have yet to get it. The implementation is quite nice,
the editor is ok, the environment is useful and a whole lot more
attractive than Turbo Pascal. Sorry, but I have no idea how it compares
to JPI, but there was a BYTE article some years back that compared them
and the name Stony Brook stuck, and my research led me to pursue it.
They will send you a detailed product brochure free from a 1-800 number.
Debugger comes with QuickMod, and it is nice. Library has some nice
abstract functions, but their platform-independent philosophy does
keep you a bit away from the OS and hardware. But great tools for
adding your own idea of low level support. I have moved code from a 
68000 environment and am surprised how little work it is to get it
running on QM. Library source is available. When I got it, they also
gave you a coupon whereby you can buy the object-only version of an
extensive third party library for $7.00. Source available for $150.
I am giving it serious consideration. But to get really extensive
graphics library support you're going to spend some real money, like
$400. The Windows SDK is another $300 (as always). 


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