Frank.Warren@f42.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Warren) (06/04/91)
I have, like you, been highly put out by JPI's V2 compiler, and quit using it, instead gravitating towards Stony Brook and Smalltalk. One thing you might do, if you're addicted to the V1 libraries, is call JPI (415-967-3200) and see if you get the 30 day trial on V3, as with the original package. Like you, I would not have bought the upgrade. V2 and the long delay in getting any fixes had me so burned that I turned on JPI and the language for quite a while. But having complained to JPI long and hard about V2, I got a free upgrade coupon for V3, so I have it. Mostly, it seems to be a bug-fix release, that is, V3 being what V2 was supposed to be. Project files are still there, if a bit easier to use. I don't like them personally; the .DEF files should be used and let that be that. This ain't supposed to be C. If I have to use a maker I want a project librarian too, and MKS (Mortice Kern Systems) is my choice. You might call and see if you can get off for just shipping/handling, in which case you might be able to retrieve your V2 money and move on to Stony Brook (very solid stuff for the most part; you can kill it if you try but in all reasonable aps it works quite well and is a true Wirth/3 compiler with Wirth-style libraries), or just chalk it up. At this point (having both V3 and Stony Brook) I much prefer Stony Brook. First, no project files. Second, I can use my own editor instead of some built-in environmental dud. Third, when the project demands it, Stony Brook professional does everything easily from the command line so I can use a fully-featured maker and project librarian/source control system. Finally, Stony Brook links with the world at large. You can use C libraries with it if you're willing to write the .DEF files. Right now, however, I've been distracted by Smalltalk. Hopefully you'll get other replies from diehard JPI and Stony Brook fans who can get your more up to speed on the internals. Stony Brook, if you'd like to talk to them, are at 805-496-5837 and have a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. -- uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!161!42!Frank.Warren Internet: Frank.Warren@f42.n161.z1.fidonet.org