ebergman@isis.cs.du.edu (Eric Bergman-Terrell) (02/14/91)
I called the Borland language support folks today for some information about TP 6.0, which I use now, and TP for Windows, which I'm interested in. Here's what they said: 1. When I asked them why the software floating point (not the 8x87 emulation) was significantly faster, they said that the old libraries hadn't been changed much from their 8080 days. The libraries were modified to exploit the 8x86 cpu family. 2. I asked them how TP programs will interact with Windows. They said that there would be a class library similar to TurboVision that could be used, as well as the basic Windows routines. Personally I'd prefer using the ordinary Windows entry points - then the knowledge could be used for Windows development using another vendor's compiler. 3. I asked about a release date. They didn't have one. They said that testing was taking longer than they expected (for software of that complexity I wasn't surprised). Anyway take the above (at least 2 & 3) with a grain of salt. Until it's released, you never know... Terrell
dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) (02/15/91)
In article <1991Feb14.030240.11601@isis.cs.du.edu> ebergman@isis.UUCP (Eric Bergman-Terrell) writes: > >I called the Borland language support folks today for some information about >TP 6.0, which I use now, and TP for Windows, which I'm interested in. Here's >what they said: ... >3. I asked about a release date. They didn't have one. They said > that testing was taking longer than they expected (for software > of that complexity I wasn't surprised). Very strange. I called the order desk today (Feb 14), and was told that TP for Windows was released today. Price $99.95 to upgrade from TP 6.0 Professional. Delivery time 2 to 4 weeks. Duncan Murdoch
GJM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (02/15/91)
Rather strange - with my plastic in hand I just gave Borland a call, hoping to upgrade from tp 6.0 to tp/windows - no can do, ie, the ONLY window product available today it C++, and at least according to them, TP/W is 4 to 6 weeks away from announcement.
chaudhury@physics.ucla.edu (CHAUDHURY, SHILADITYA) (02/15/91)
Duncan Murdoch's statement seems to be consistent with the ad I saw in InfoWorld --TP under Windows to produce Windows apps - Release date was Feb. 12.... Anyone else hear anything? --Raj Chaudhury UCLA Solid State
Robert_Salesas@mindlink.UUCP (Robert Salesas) (02/18/91)
What issue of InfoWorld was that? Was this an Ad fo TP for Windows itsled? Rob
bns@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Chris Dollmont) (03/01/91)
dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) writes: > Very strange. I called the order desk today (Feb 14), and was told that > TP for Windows was released today. Price $99.95 to upgrade from TP 6.0 > Professional. Delivery time 2 to 4 weeks. > > Duncan Murdoch Even stranger, I called today (Feb 28), and Borland denies the existence of Turbo Pascal for Windows. Chris
dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) (03/01/91)
In article <kqa5X2w163w@ersys.uucp> ersys!bns@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Chris Dollmont) writes: >dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) writes: >> Very strange. I called the order desk today (Feb 14), and was told that >> TP for Windows was released today. Price $99.95 to upgrade from TP 6.0 >> Professional. Delivery time 2 to 4 weeks. > >Even stranger, I called today (Feb 28), and Borland denies the existence >of Turbo Pascal for Windows. I'm pretty sure now that the salesman I was talking to misunderstood me, and was trying to sell Borland C++, which does support Windows and had just been released. Oh, well. Duncan Murdoch
oneel@heawk1.rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov ( Bruce Oneel ) (03/04/91)
While reading the documentation for BC++ this weekend I found something interesting. I was reading the Whitewater Toolkit manual and they talked about how turbo pascal required the .RES files to be present when it ran it's linking stage. The whitewater toolkit is supplied by borland to allow you to edit icons, bitmaps, and such and attach them to exe files as resources. One of the outputs can be a .res file, the binary compiled file which normally is processed by the microsoft resource compile. Obviously things are moving along on TP for windows. bruce -- | Bruce O'Neel | internet : oneel@heasfs.gsfc.nasa.gov| | Code 664/STX | span : lheavx::oneel | | NASA/GSFC |compuserve: 72737,1315 | | Greenbelt MD 20771 | AT&Tnet : (301)-286-1119 |
roybalm@tramp.Colorado.EDU (ROYBAL MICHAEL) (03/13/91)
I got this post from a different newsgroup, but I thought it should
be here, so here I am, re-posting it!
Begin Quote:
Borland International Inc. will ship Turbo Pascal for Windows on
March 18, beating Microsoft Corp. out the door with an inexpensive
language package for the popular environment.
... the $249.95 package includes a Windows version of Borland's
Integrated Development Environment and a character-based version of
Turbo Debugger, which works with Windows code.
For Pascal programmers not versed in the intricacies of Windows
development, Turbo Pascal for Windows provides ObjectWindows - a
so-called "application framework" that promises to greatly simplify
the coding process, ... [TP for Windows does not require Microsoft's
SDK] ...
As with the Borland's recently announced C++ product, Turbo Pascal
for Windows includes the Whitewater Resource Toolkit.
The package does not replace Borland's flagship Turbo Pascal, but is
instead a separate product line, ...
End Quote: InfoWorld, March 11, 1991. Page 5
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as I stated before, I am just re-posting. I am also not affiliated with
Borland in any way(except I use their programs.)
Michael Roybal(roybalm@tramp.colorado.edu)ace@cc.ic.ac.uk (03/19/91)
This turned up in Compuserve. No comments... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Turbo Pascal for Windows 1.0 Hot Sheet Feature Highlights ---------------------- NEW! state-of-the-art Windows integrated development environment (IDE) Runs under Windows Multiple editor windows Full Mouse Support Supports TP6 type hot keys Multi-file editor that can edit files up to 1MB complete save and restore of desktop NEW! ObjectWindow library - Built in support for Windows, Menus, Dialogs, Buttons, List boxes, Edit fields, Icons and more. All for use in your applications. NEW! Full access to all Windows API functions and messages. NEW! Fully Supports creation of DLLs. NEW! Turbo Debugger for Windows Supports Windows messages Advanced breakpoints Reverse execution Automatic DLL debugging Object browser and inspectors Single and dual monitor support INCLUDED! Whitewater Resource Toolkit - Visually create Dialogs, Menus, Icons, Bitmaps and String resources. INCLUDED! Resource Compiler INCLUDED! Windows Help Compiler Full featured inline assembler (BASM) Private fields and methods in object declarations Extended syntax directive ($X) that lets you treat functions like procedures (and ignore function results) 286 code generation address references in typed constants Far and near procedures directives ($F) Link in initialized data ($L) from object (OBJ) files Smart linker removes unused objects and code complete math coprocessor emulation and support - 8087/80287/80387 NEW! Turbo Help hypertext on-line help facilities, including references to all Windows API finctions and messages. Turbo Pascal for Windows includes everything you need to create Windows applications. It does not require the Microsoft Windows SDK. System Requirements --------------------- IBM PC or PS/2 and all 100% compatibles Microsoft Windows 3.0 or later 2Mb of memory EGA, Hercules or VGA graphics Mouse or other pointing device Hard Disk (Requires 6.5 Meg for full product) Benchmarks ----------- Machine Lines/Min Compaq DeskPro 386/33 84,000 Documentation ---------------- 1. User's Guide 2. Programmer's Guide 3. Windows Reference Guide 4. Windows Programming Guide 5. Whitwater Resource Toolkit Users Guide 6. Turbo Debugger for Windows Users Guide 7. Help Compiler Reference Guide Pricing Information ------------------------- Turbo Pascal for Windows $249.95 Special Offer Information --------------------------- Registered user of ANY BORLAND LANGUAGE PRODUCT $99.95 *** ***Turbo Pascal for Windows is exclusively for Windows Development and does not replace Turbo Pascal version 6.0. TP6 is the current product for standard DOS development. The offer is not an upgrade it is a limited special offer to our current Turbo Pascal Customers.
mar@computing-maths.cardiff.ac.uk (Mark Rainey) (04/29/91)
There has been talk about Pascal for Windows coming out in the States. Does anyone have any details about when, or if, it will be released in the UK ? Thanks in advance, Mark Rainey
d89mb@efd.lth.se (Magnus Bodin) (04/29/91)
Can anyone please give a short summary on what errors/bugs or
"non-good-looking-features" which have been found
yet in the Turbo Pascal for Windows?
TNX
--
Magnus Bodin "Nec fasces, nec opes,
Institute of Tychology, sola artis sceptra perennant"
Box 5127, 220 05 Sweden (Tycho Brahe, Stj{rneborg 1584)rambaut@castle.ed.ac.uk (A E Rambaut) (05/01/91)
mar@computing-maths.cardiff.ac.uk (Mark Rainey) writes: >There has been talk about Pascal for Windows coming out in the States. Does >anyone have any details about when, or if, it will be released in the UK ? >Thanks in advance, I rang Borland UK a few days ago and they said they had it in stock for about #70 as an upgrade. Andrew.