g570907053ea@ucdavis.UUCP (g570907053ea) (11/03/86)
<worrying about the line eater is tougher than coping with it...> (sorry if this is posted twice - my POSTNEWS suggested the first one failed) Hi, I have data on ground-squirrel PAGE polymorphisms for a large number of sites (31) ranging through California from Santa Barbara and Bakersfield to Shasta, Chico and Willows, and even a few in Oregon. Most of the sites are mid- state, though, just north and south of the S.F. bay, the Delta, and the American-Sacramento River boundary. What can one do with data like this? With a subset of it, mostly the central-boundary sites, we calibrated Nei's 'molecular clock', noting the degree of differentiation (Nei's 'Dv') associated with the Delta/bay flooding. This flooding of course halted gene flow -- ground squirrels can swim, but don't. (This calibration is published in 'Molecular Evolution', about 2 years ago, with David Smith and Dick Coss as authors. I did the calculations, and am Coss's grad student. Since I'm more modelling and quantitatively oriented, I have permission to do with the new data whatever seems appropriate.) What seems appropriate is incorporating the geography somehow. My leitmotiv is J. Felsenstein's article, about '82 in J. Theor. Biol., in which he reiterates that no models exist for inferring much except genetic distances from such genetic data-- and that the effects of migration and mutation are there confounded badly. A similar theme is apparent in Montgomery Slatkins 'gene flow' review in the Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics (84 or '85). Slatkin proposes an emphasis on the 'rare alleles' -- those low-frequency, presumably non- equilibrated sports which suggest current and recent changes. I'd like to hear more about this notion. It seems rather an art-form, but rewarding. The other spatial statistics which have caught my eye: Dan Wartenberg's canonical correlation, maximizing covariation between composites of the genetic raw frequencies and polynomial functions of the site coordinates. This purportedly captures large, regional trends, as in the example (in his Fall '85 Systematic Zoology paper) of human migrations into NW europe from the middle eastern origins. He contrasts this with the local emphasis of Sokal's autocorrelation analyses (the two have co-authored on these topics). Both are of course useful- they're not alternatives. Finally, the Mantel statistic for matrix comparisons is much in vogue: the matrices compared can be of genetic distances, 'ecological' or simple geographic distance, or some more complicated gegraphic matrix which includes the effects of barriers, e.g. rivers or Deltas. Most of these are desribed or alluded to in either or both of Manly's new STATISTICS OF NATURAL SELECTION or J. Endler's NATURAL SELECTION IN THE WILD. Oddly enough-- my major concern is NON-selective variation! Any ideas or thoughts are welcome. I'm happy to prepublish here as I find the time to conduct these manipulations. Thanks much! Ron Goldthwaite