usul@auc.UUCP (Ron McBay ) (12/22/89)
Does anybody know anything about the current state of dolphin research? What kinds of things are being done with them these days, especially in reference to trying to communicate with them. Just curious. Ron McBay Atlanta University Center ...{gatech,emory}!auc!usul usul%auc.UUCP@gatech.edu usul%auc.UUCP@mathcs.emory.edu -- Ron McBay I'm trying to tell you something about my life Atlanta University Center Maybe give me insight between black and white UUCP: ...{emory,gatech}!auc!usul -- CLOSER TO FINE INTERNET: usul%auc.UUCP@mathcs.emory.edu INDIGO GIRLS
ccopjss@cc.brunel.ac.uk (John Smith) (01/02/90)
Sorry I don't yet know how to include the letter I am following up in the follow up, but someone was asking for data about dolphins. Now I know this following text does not belong here, but it has just been christmas and it might be a bit of light relief among all the other serious text in this group. It is part of a bigger story so some bits you wont understand because of ommited text. 1.3 On seeing the group emerge on deck the Dolphins all went Queerrathroooooopppppp, which the Babel fish translated into "you clumsy fools, why dont you look where your dropping your spaceship, you nearly killed some of us and you have scattered all the fish we have taken a long time to round up and were about to eat". From which you can see what some people had often suspected, that dolphin speech is remarkably compact. Trillian went to the rail and spoke to the largest and loudest of the crowd. I'm terribly sorry, it was all my fault, I had an accident with the navigation system and we came here completely out of control. We dont even know where we are. Our ship travels in a very peculiar manner. I do hope none of you are hurt, I have always been very fond of dolphins and would not harm you intentionally. Even as she started to speak one of the dolphins rasp something very rapidly which took too long to translate before several others added comments. (Dolphins also think very fast, to them humans take a long time to say anything. Babel fish can only translate at the speed that the brain they are nearest to is used to hearing and have little storage capacity. The dolphins of course know this, being expert on all forms of fish). After the large dolphin had waited for Trillian to finish, in short bursts, with (for them) long pauses in between, he replied :- my family tell me you are speaking English, which is very odd as some of them were among the last to leave before the Vogons destroyed the place where it was spoken. The races we were studying there had not developed space or time travel, none had the means to escape even if they had understood our warnings, so how is it that you came to be here? Your apology is accepted. What is that strange ship you travel in? Who is that strange being inside that is feeling so miserable? I am told that many of your species showed kindness towards mine, even though most of you believed we were only dumb beasts. None of us were badly hurt although many were bruised and stunned by the shock wave. You did not give us much time to take evasive action. Those that need it will be supported for breath until they recover. Thank you for your concern. So the conversation went on, much being explained on both sides. Then Arthur offered to help the injured dolphins by supporting them in slings from the side of the ship, an idea thought very novel by those who had not been off their own planet and had no experience of things out of the water holding up things in the water. It was as if some alien had arrived on earth and started handing out sky hooks. Some of the uninjured tried it just for the fun of it. It was when Trillian and Arthur decided to have a swim with the dolphins (they thought they needed it after being in Xox's, Zaphod had gone off the idea once he found it was not so exclusive as he had thought) that the dolphins were glad they had dropped in. But it was not without a little nervousness as that 8000 mile away bottom was a little disturbing. The dolphins had never seen anything so funny as these two legged objects trying to move through the water. With their incredable underwater communication system the word quickly spread and soon the earthbeings thought they were swimming in a thick dolphin soup. As far as the eye could see in every direction the sea was packed with the grining beautiful streamlined shapes that came to see the last two specimens of an otherwise extinct animal. The skin of the swimmers tickled with the sound beams aimed at them from so many sources and their ears fizzed with the squeeky buzz of the dolphin speech. It was just as well that the poor old Babel fish was so thoroughly overloaded that it had practicaly stopped translating, because some of the comments racing around were not very complimentry and some were downright bawdy. With their built in ultrasonic scanners they had soon determined that the female was not pregnant, which seemed crazy to them as how did these beings expect to populate a new planet if they did not start as soon as possible. There were other words to that effect. The dolphins were not simply uninhibited, they had never invented any inhibitions. To a dolphin, sex and all its behaviour, was no more special than breathing, you did it when you felt like it and a mate was available. The walls and clothes of Earth and the ideas created round them were as weird as money to their society. The time among the dolphins was the best that Arthur had had for a long while. There was nowhere to go and nothing to do and nothing was trying to kill him. He told the dolphins about what had happend to him since the Thursday when first his house and then his planet had been destroyed, and told them he was glad that they of all the species on Earth had been saved. He ask how they were, since dolphins were not known to build space traveling machines. It was then he learned that the Dolphins were not the dominant species on this planet where they evolved. Also on this world were an intelligent kind of squidlike being, which from the dolphins point of veiw were evil and used the dolphin as carnivores used herbivores. But above them both were the whales, some of which fed on the squid and while being friendly with the dolphins sometimes also eats them, but only the weak or mentaly defective, which was how the whales had over many lifetimes deliberately made the dolphins intelligent, so that they had someone else to talk to and who they could send to other worlds to gather data for their great minds to ponder. The dolphins believed this kind of hierarchy existed on every life supporting planet ever found, with different species occupying the different levels. Some of the more mysticaly minded said that this was an echo in this plane of the way things were in the dimensions of the higher order beings. But that was a bit to obtruse for the ordinary down to water dolphins, who when not fleeing from hunting squid, spent their time hunting fun, fish and females, or occasionally helping the whales tend the huge rafts of plankton and seaweed that powered the planets ecosystem. It was as Arthur and Trillian were climbing back on board that Zaphod suddenly shouted " I thought that crazy paranoid robot must be wrong about this place, look there's an island and its even got a geyser on it. Arthur and Trillian looked where Zaphod was pointing and knew that Marvin was not wrong. There must be a strong current here Zaphod said, we're moving towards it (there was but it was not relevant). Actualy, breathed Trillian, the island is coming towards us. Er um! was all Zaphod could manage as he suddenly realised that it was true. ------------------------ At the time of its destruction there was on Earth much discussion about what did or did not constitute a healthy lifestyle. Among the many arguments there were some points of agreement, namely that a diet that contained fish was more healthy than one that did not. It was also generaly agreed that exercise was necessary for good health and strenuous exercise such as swimming caused such benificial effects as reduced pulse rate & low blood pressure. Those that believed these things would have been delighted to have heard of somebeing who had lived its entire life (after it was weaned) eating nothing but fresh fish and vegetable soup, high in fibre, and who had also swam every day of a very unstressful life and as a result of this had a resting pulse rate of only six beats a minute. They would not have believed that this slow pulsed being had lived three hundred and eighty two earth years & was and still thought young in his society, or that each of his heart beats pumped about half a ton of blood. They would also not believe the size and weight of this being. The crew of a certain yacht/spaceship had no choice about believing in such things, as they were about to meet them. ----------------------------------- Ford, who had been on Earth long enough to know what was coming, simply had trouble comprehending its size and stood with his mouth open. Hell's bell's! exclaimed Arthur, just look at that. Be respectful, snapped a dolphin, you are about to meet the Prince of Whales. His name is Chhhh Arrrrrls.
esmythe@andrew.ATL.GE.COM (Erich J Smythe) (01/03/90)
In article <32346@auc.UUCP> usul@auc.UUCP (Ron McBay ) writes: > >Does anybody know anything about the current state of dolphin research? >What kinds of things are being done with them these days, especially >in reference to trying to communicate with them. > >Just curious. When I lived at Mystic, CT (of pizza fame) I had a chance to work with the dolphins and belugas at the Mystic aquarium. While I was there a researcher from the Navy Underwater Systems Center was doing PhD research on how the dolphins in the aquarium might communicate. I will try to recall some of this although it is about a year old. The main points of the research is that (a) we are not really sure whether dolphins communicate, (b) if they do, what is the means of the communication. To assess both (a) and (b), it was found that you have to separate "signal" from aquarium noise, and this has never been done to any great extent, so he has spent almost an entire year studying the noise characteristics of the dolphin's tank at the mystic aquarium. Only now has he been able to put forth a hypothesis on (a), and that, while the dolphins are performing tricks, stunts, and just generally playing, they may be emitting some acoustic signal to others in the tank. This is especially prevalent when a pair of dolphins are performing. The real hard part is (b). Dolphins are constantly emitting acoustic signals. Most, of course, is sonar, both for echolocating and "feeling" of objects (the latter being high pitched and very close). Finding "communication" in all that is tough. What he has found so far is a squeak right before the dolphins jump from the water, a possible synchronization signal. He doesn't expect to find the language in all this, but is trying to look for some sort of "alphabet". Merely determining whether the "alphabet" is analog or digital or some combination is an important first step. Of course, trainers and researchers communicate all the time with dolphins, but it tends to be on our terms rather than the dolphins'. Dolphins perform stunts by taking hand signals from a trainer, and are very good at recognizing these signals. They are also very particular, and become quite irritated when the signals are even slightly messed up by the trainer. They seem to "know" what to do, but are either (1) confused because the signal is not perfect, or (2) are refusing because the trainer has messed up. My limited experience says (2), since when I got to work with them it was clear who was in charge. It wasn't me. I had no doubt that they were training me to give them fish and attention by performing the odd trick. The dolphins even seem to show some ability to combine hand signals. One trainer had taught a dolphin to spin while she bowed (jumping out of the water in an arc) by combining the spin with the bow signal. We do know some dolphin "signals" that are made by physical means. The lob tail (slapping the tail flukes on the water) is a sign of frustration or irritation in the tank, and is a warning in the wild. Snapping of the jaws is a more severe warning, and if you happen to be swimming in the tank it is time to get out in a hurry. We still have a lot to learn, but before we do we must learn to communicate on the dolphin's own terms. They are awe inspiring creatures. Erich Smythe esmythe@atl.ge.com GE Aerospace Moorestown, NJ (609)866-6643