jeff@dciem.UUCP (Jeff Richardson) (09/10/84)
About a month ago, I posted a quiz which I called "a more interesting group members quiz". I received five responses, and here are the scores: Rich Rosen (pyuxn!rlr) 85 (79 + 6 bonus) Andrew W. Rogers (inmet!andrew) 85 (75 + 10 bonus) Bill Nemec (houti!wn) 45 Stephen Folta (yale!folta) 38 B.A. Salzmann (ihuxj!tucson) 5 There were a possible 103 points not including the bonus. I refused to give more than 10 bonus points, regardless of how many people Andrew named. Here are the answers: 1.Q: Name at least two musicians who have appeared on record as fully-fledged members (i.e. guest appearances don't count) of four different groups. Name also their groups and the instruments they play. [2 points per musician plus 1 for each group and instrument] A: I regret asking this question now because I got a lot of answers that I couldn't confirm, and I was forced to determine the winner with bonus points, so I wimped out and made it a tie. Andrew Rogers really earned his 10 bonus points. He came up with the following 20 people: ERIC CLAPTON, guitarist with Yardbirds, John Mayall's Bluebreakers, Cream, Blind Faith, Derek & The Dominoes, Eric Clapton and The Powerhouse. He was the one I thought of for five groups (I didn't know about the Powerhouse) but Andrew was the only one that named him. JOHN WETTON, bassist with Family, King Crimson, Uriah Heep, UK, Roxy Music and Asia. CARMINE APPICE, drums with Vanilla Fudge, Cactus, Beck Bogert & Appice, KGB* and the Rod Stewart Band. GINGER BAKER, drums with Graham Bond Organisation, Cream, Blind Faith, Ginger Baker's Air Force, Baker-Gurvitz Army. SKIP BATTIN, bass with Skip & Flip*, Byrds, New Riders Of The Purple Sage, Burrito Brothers. DON BREWER, drums with Terry Knight and the Pack*, Grand Funk Railroad, Flint*, Bob Seger's Silver Bullet Band. MIKE CLARKE, drums with Byrds, Flying Burrito Brothers, Firefall, Firebyrds*. AYNSLEY DUNBAR, drums with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation*, Mothers Of Invention, Journey, Jefferson Starship. RICHIE FURAY, guitar with Au-Go-Go Singers*, Buffalo Springfield, Poco, Souther/Hillman/Furay Band*. RICK GRECH, bass & violin with Family, Blind Faith, Ginger Baker's Air Force, Traffic, KGB*. CHRIS HILLMAN, bass, guitar, & mandolin with The Hillmen*, Byrds, Flying Burrito Brothers, Manassas, Souther/Hillman/Furay Band* DANNY "KOOTCH" KORTCHMAR, guitar with Flying Machine*, The City*, Jo Mama*, The Section*. CHARLES LARKEY, bass with The Myddle Class*, The Fugs, The City*, Jo Mama* JIM McCARTY (not the Yardbirds' drummer), guitar with Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels*, Cactus, Buddy Miles Express*, Rockets*. JIM MESSINA, guitar & bass with Jim Messina and the Jesters*, Buffalo Springfield, Poco, Loggins & Messina. CARL PALMER drums with Crazy World Of Arthur Brown, Atomic Rooster, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Asia. Rich Rosen also named Palmer and these four groups, plus he said he played with a group called PM, which I had never heard of. MIKE PINERA, guitar with Blues Image, Iron Butterfly, Cactus, Ramatam* CARL RADLE, bass with Gary Lewis & The Playboys, Delaney & Bonnie & Friends*, Mad Dogs & Englishmen*, Derek and the Dominoes. STEVE STILLS, guitar, keyboards, & bass with Au-Go-Go Singers*, Buffalo Springfield, Crosby Stills Nash (& Young), Manassas. STEVE WINWOOD, guitar, keyboards, & bass with Spencer Davis Group, Eric Clapton and the Powerhouse (as "Steve Anglo"), Traffic, Blind Faith, Ginger Baker's Air Force. *'s represent groups that I couldn't confirm, but as you can see there are enough that I can confirm to give him full marks plus a good bonus. In addition to Palmer, Rich Rosen named: BILL BRUFORD, drummer with Yes, King Crimson, UK, Bruford, Savoy Brown, Roy Harper, and Gong. (He didn't name Genesis, but I would have counted it too, even though I'm not sure he was actually a member.) Bill Nemec also named Bruford, but he didn't name any of the groups. PATRICK MORAZ, keyboards with Mainhorse*, Refugee*, Yes, Moody Blues. He also named Phil Manzanera, but I didn't give him credit for him because he only named three groups and I couldn't think of a fourth. He named Robert Fripp too, but he counted two incarnations of King Crimson as separate groups and I counted them as one, so he got no points for Fripp. Bill Nemec named Greg Lake, but he didn't list any groups and I could only think of two he was with (He never recorded with Asia so, according to the wording of the question, it doesn't count.) so I didn't give him any points for Lake. B.A. Salzmann named named Ronnie James Dio of Black Sabbath, Rainbow, Scorpions and Mountain. The first two are definitely correct, but I couldn't confirm whether he was with the Scorpions, and I'm pretty sure he was never with Mountain, so I didn't give him any points for Dio. (B.A. seemed to indicate that Scorpions and Mountain were guesses anyway.) 2.Q: What do the following all have in common? [4 points] Adrian Belew, Brian Eno, Robert Fripp, John Lennon, Giorgio Moroder, Mick Ronson, Rick Wakeman. A: All have recorded with DAVID BOWIE. Rosen, Rogers and Nemec got it. Here's an almost complete list of the albums on which they appear: Belew: Lodger; Eno: Low, Heroes, Lodger; Fripp: Heroes; Lennon: Young Americans; Moroder: Cat People soundtrack; Ronson: Hunky Dory, Ziggy Stardust; Wakeman: Hunky Dory. 3a.Q: Who do the following five albums have in common? [4 points] Camel - "I Can See Your House From Here" Frida - "Something's Going On" Steve Hackett - "Voyage Of The Acolyte" Mike Oldfield - "QE2" Robert Plant - "The Principle Of Moments" A: PHIL COLLINS drums and/or sings on all of them. Bill Nemec said that Collins produced all of them, which is wrong (Frida is the only one he produced, I think.) but since I asked only for who and not what he does, Bill got full marks. Rosen, Rogers, and Folta also got this one right. b.Q: Who do the following five albums have in common? [6 points] Camel - "Rain Dances" King Crimson - "Islands" Kokomo - "Kokomo" Richard Wright - "Wet Dream" Wang Chung - "Points On The Curve" A: MEL COLLINS plays saxes on all of them. This was supposed to be a toughie, but question 3a was supposed to provide a little bit of a hint. (I don't think Mel & Phil are related, but the group picture on "Rain Dances" contains someone that looks a little like Phil Collins, and he doesn't appear in any of the other Camel group pictures I've seen.) Still, Andrew Rogers was the only one who knew it. 4. For each of the following pairs of groups, who was a member of both? In most cases, it's one person, but for some it's more than one. [2 points for each person and another 1 for his or her instrument] The names of the people who got it right are bracketed. a. Asia & The Buggles GEOFF DOWNES keyboards [Rosen, Rogers, Folta. Nemec picked the wrong Buggle, Trevor Horn who was never with Asia.] b. The Bee Gees & Strawbs BLUE WEAVER keyboards [Rosen, Rogers] c. The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band & The Rutles NEIL INNES keybords, guitar, bass & vocals [Rosen, Rogers, Nemec, Folta] d. The Cure & The Glove ROBERT SMITH guitar, keyboards & vocals [I didn't expect anyone to get this one, but obviously Rich Rosen has great taste.] e. Jefferson Airplane & New Riders Of The Purple Sage SPENCER DRYDEN drums [Rogers, Nemec] f. King Crimson & Bad Company BOZ BURRELL bass [Rosen, Rogers] g. The Monks & Strawbs RICHARD HUDSON drums & JOHN FORD bass [nobody] h. Motorhead & Hawkwind LEMMY KILMISTER bass [Rogers] (Better brush up on your heavy metal, Rich) i. Roxy Music & 801 PHIL MANZANERA guitar & BRIAN ENO synths & noisemakers [Rosen, Folta] j. The Sex Pistols & Public Image Ltd JOHN LYDON (o.k.a. JOHNNY ROTTEN) vocals [the only one everybody knew] k. Siouxsie And The Banshees & Magazine JOHN McGEOCH guitar [Rosen] (Better brush up on the 80's, Andrew) l. The Spencer Davis Group & Blind Faith STEVE WINWOOD keyboards, guitar, & vocals [Rosen, Rogers, Nemec, Salzmann] m. Talking Heads & The Tom Tom Club TINA WEYMOUTH bass and vocals & CHRIS FRANTZ drums [Rosen, Rogers, Nemec, Folta. Salzmann got 1 point for knowing that one of them was the female bass player, but he didn't know her name.] n. 10CC & The Mike Oldfield Group RICK FENN guitar [nobody got it] o. Ultravox & Visage MIDGE URE guitar & BILLY CURRIE keyboards & violin [Rosen] p. Wings & Thunderclap Newman JIMMY McCULLOCH guitar [Rogers, Nemec] q. Yes & Flash PETER BANKS guitar & TONY KAYE keyboards [Rosen, Rogers, Nemec, Folta] This one was a little controversial. Rogers said Tony Kaye played on the first Flash album but was not a member. I figured he was probably right since I don't have any Flash albums, but I know Kaye left Yes a year or two after Banks, reportedly to form another group (not Flash). However, Rosen thinks he was a member and Nemec, who has the first Flash album, is pretty certain that he was a member. Since I have no way of confirming who's right, I decided that I would give points to anyone who said he was a member, and also to Rogers since he obviously knew about Kaye's associat- ion with both bands anyway. Apparently we have a lot of Yes fans out there. r. Yes & Moody Blues PATRICK MORAZ keyboards [Rosen, Rogers, Nemec, Folta] s. Yes & The Plastic Ono Band ALAN WHITE drums [Rosen, Rogers, Nemec, Folta] t. Yes & Strawbs RICK WAKEMAN keyboards [Rosen, Rogers, Nemec, Folta] Thanks to everyone who responded. I hope you enjoyed the quiz. -- Jeff Richardson, DCIEM, Toronto (416) 635-2073 {linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd}!utcsrgv!dciem!jeff {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!dciem!jeff