[net.sf-lovers] Roll-your-own

smw@tilt.UUCP (Stewart Wiener) (05/13/84)

> From: matt@oddjob.UChicago.UUCP (Matt Crawford)
> 
> ... In particular I think that there has been no real portrayal of
> aliens as complete characters in the movies....  You are free
> to claim that Chmeee and Phssthpok are flat compared to, say, human
> characters in Casablanca or GWTW, but the competition in sf films is with
> the likes of Chewbacca and E.T. (Who knows what the hell they're thinking
> about?), Yoda (of the one-track mind), or the Blob.
> 
> Any counter-examples?

Why, OF COURSE.  The best-developed character in all of the realm of science
fiction -- from the original concept, through 79 TV episodes and reams of
further material, culminating in three movies.  Spock, of the planet Vulcan.

Okay, he's only half alien.  Then again, Phssthpok (is that spelled right?)
is also of the same blood as humans.
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wbpesch@ihuxp.UUCP (Walt Pesch) (05/18/84)

I would say the best would have to be doing an on-screen creation of
Poul Anderson's Dominick Flandry.  it would be entertaining, easy to
identify with, and fun!

Walt Pesch
AT&T Technologies
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gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) (05/19/84)

Spock is hardly an alien -- I tend to think of him more as a foreigner
with different customs.

Perhaps Maia from Space 1999?
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					Be ye moby,
					for I am moby.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
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smw@tilt.UUCP (05/24/84)

The GREAT lines from Greg Skinner's article:

>Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma.
	(cute, and users of 'notes' missed it)
>Joy is in the ears that hear.
	(another Saltheart Foamfollower fan!)

The ones that inspire the followup:

>Spock is hardly an alien -- I tend to think of him more as a foreigner
>with different customs.

Spock IS an alien.  It's thrown in our faces early and often; find humans who
can develop the "customs" of telepathy, pon farr and plak tow (the physical
problems during mating season), and green T-Negative blood.  Listen to McCoy
complain about Spock's alien physiology, as well as his philosophy.

Perhaps it's a sign of just how well he's been characterized that you fail
to see him as alien, an outsider.  You know him well enough to count him as
one of your own sociological group, though he would insist on not being
included there.  (Happened often in the closing scenes to the episodes.)
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	  Stewart Wiener / Princeton Univ. EECS / princeton!tilt!smw
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