[sci.physics] Whats all this about picking nits on psi's?

trash@oliveb.UUCP (Tom Repa) (11/06/86)

> From:  "Keith F. Lynch" <KFL%MX.LCS.MIT.EDU@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU>
>     From: pyramid!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!hoptoad!tim@Ucb-Vax.arpa (Tim Maroney)
>     ... biasing a random number generator, which is presumably a
>     microscopic silicon device whose functioning requires special
>     training for understanding.
> 
>   A true random number generator might be a speck of radium with a
> Geiger counter next to it.  A silicon device, i.e. computer, can only
> be a ~rpseudo-random number generator.  The numbers that are produced by
> it may be well distributed, but they only APPEAR random - because of
> our lack of knowledge of the algorithm or lack of ability to compute
> its results in our heads.  If someone appears to demonstrate an ability
> to bias a properly operating pseudo-random number generator, that is
> excellent evidence that the experiment IS bogus.
> 								...Keith
	Uh, not quite. There are Hardware random number generators
that are quite random, anhd implemented in silicon. ATT makes one, 
and Intel has one in their "Keyprom". I'm thinking of making one for 
Phil Stevens to use in his informal psi experiments. That is if I can 
convince him to keep this psi stuff out of my physics newsgroup. 
		(Hint, Hint, to all you psiers).
The one in Intel's "Keyprom" looks easy to do in discretes, so I will
probably use a form of that design. (If any of Intels lawyers are reading 
this, don't sue as it's not for profit and I don't make enough to bother with.)
It works by having the output of 3 asynchronous oscillators of varible 
frequency XORed (more or less) and feeding this into a shift register
whose output controls the switched capacitors which change the oscillators
fequency. Oh recursion is such a wonderful thing. The ouput is quite random.
	If you want more info, call Intel and ask  for article 
reprint AR-381 "Locking up system security", or the Solutions magazine 
May/June 1985. I don't know how the ATT chip work, and they probably
wouldn't tell me if I asked. But it's part of their encryption chipset. 
		Just thought I'd let you know.
			Tom Repa(trash@oliven)
P.S. Normal computers can give true random output, too. If you don't
this, I invite you to come here and use our CAD system sometime. You 
never know _what_ its output is going to be!! :-)


Disclaimer: This article was for information only. If you believe anything
I say, you deserve whatever you get. If you want the Truth, go out and 
find it for yourself.


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