[sci.physics] Radiation Detectors/Counters

neal@lynx.uucp (Neal Woodall) (04/26/89)

I have recently decided to purchase a geiger counter, for general use and for
possible survival applications. I have seen several different types of devices
offered for sale, including some that are old US Civil Defense surplus, some
that are based on solid-state sensors that are obviously commercial-grade
units, and some that are advertised as being European/NATO surplus (brand new,
never opened).

Now for questions/confusion:

I believe that the geiger counters that I have seen can be broadly classed
"radiological health" units (measure in the .5 to 500 milli-roentegen/hour
range and are not "hardened" or weather-proof) and those that are intended
for military/war conditions (measure in the 1-500 roentgen/hour range and are
"hardened" and weather/water proof).

How exactly is a "roentgen" defined? Is it in terms of energy dose, or just
in terms of "counts" (ie, gamma striks regardless of energy, also do
beta/alpha strikes count, even though they are obviously not as bad as
high-energy gammas)? What is considered normal "background radiation" in
roentgens?

Also, do any of these detectors count neutrons (which are very bad)? Is a
geiger tube detector better than solid-state (or vise versa) and under which
conditions/uses is either "better" than the other?

How is a roentgen (one measure of radiation) related to a REM (which I
believe stands for Radiation Effective to Man)? What dose of roentgens/REMs
in bad/worse/fatal? (I have been told that more than 350 roentgens is
bad/fatal)

As you can tell, I have lost of questions that perhaps one of you can answer
for me. I have used a solid-state commercial-grade unit (belongs to a friend)
and it was quite interesting to use. One of the "funniest" things occured
when we tested another friend's rock/mineral collection....we found that two
of his rocks (uranannite and cuprosklodouskite (both probably spelled wrong))
gave off MUCH more radiation than the normal background. This device measured
the radiation in "counts" or "events" (which I understand to be the detection
of an alpha/beta/gamma of greater than some threashold energy). Normal
background was about 12 counts/minute....these rocks were on the order of 7000
counts/minute! The rocks now reside in a metal box in the garage. My friend's
wife went through a nite of severe depression when she was just sure that they
would never have kids! She has completely forgotten the whole episode now.

Anyway, all practical answers/info is appreciated. I undertand the difference
between alphas (ionized helium nuclei), betas (high energy electrons) and
gammas (very high energy photons) and why fast neutrons are so VERY bad (affect
the nucleus of an atom, rather than just the electron shell). Any info
concerning the "practical" aspects of radioactivity, radiologcal health, geiger
counters, etc. will be appreciated.

All follow-ups have been directed to sci.electronics.


Thanx in advance!




Neal